EDITOR’S NOTE (Nick Stamatakis): Yes, peace is always preferable to war and this is more of a civil war – induced by foreign interests – than anything else. We Greeks of all nations know how hard it is to end such a civil war… It almost destroyed Greece 1945-1949… WILL PAT. BARTHOLOMEW FOLLOW THE POPE’S LEAD THIS TIME?
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Pope Francis: Ukraine should have the courage of the ‘white flag,’ negotiate end of war with Russia
ROME: Pope Francis said in an interview that Ukraine, facing a possible defeat, should have the courage to negotiate an end to the war with Russia and not be ashamed to sit at the same table to carry out peace talks.
The pope made his appeal during an interview recorded last month with Swiss broadcaster RSI, which was partially released on Saturday.
“I think that the strongest one is the one who looks at the situation, thinks about the people and has the courage of the white flag, and negotiates,” Francis said, adding that talks should take place with the help of international powers.
Ukraine remains firm on not engaging directly with Russia on peace talks, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has said multiple times the initiative in peace negotiations must belong to the country which has been invaded.
Russia is gaining momentum on the battlefield in the war now in its third year and Ukraine is running low on ammunition. Meanwhile, some of Ukraine’s allies in the West are delicately raising the prospect of sending troops.
Vatican spokesman Matteo Bruni said Saturday that Francis picked up the “white flag” term that had been used by the interviewer. He issued a statement of clarification after the pope’s “white flag” comments sparked criticism that he was siding with Russia in the conflict.
Throughout the war, Francis has tried to maintain the Vatican’s traditional diplomatic neutrality, but that has often been accompanied by apparent sympathy with the Russian rationale for invading Ukraine, such as when he noted that NATO was “barking at Russia’s door” with its eastward expansion.
Francis said in the RSI interview that “the word negotiate is a courageous word.”
“When you see that you are defeated, that things are not going well, you have to have the courage to negotiate,” he said. “Negotiations are never a surrender.”
The pope also reminded people that some countries have offered to act as mediators in the conflict.
“Today, for example, in the war in Ukraine, there are many who want to mediate,” he said. “Turkiye has offered itself for this. And others. Do not be ashamed to negotiate before things get worse.”
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan — whose NATO-member country has sought to balance its close relations with both Ukraine and Russia — has offered during a visit Friday from Zelensky to host a peace summit between the two countries.
In Judgement I come into this world , so the Blind can see, and those who can see will go Blind” Jesus
The Pope has gotten the message and now can see …that “The Original Churches of Christ are to mobilize the most powerful army in human Hiztory ..2.6 billion Christians and without “firing a shot”….God has disarmed the “Entire Empire of lies” of their “Humanitarian lies to wage wars , when he set up Zelensky, Netanyahu and his Cabal of Jewish and Evangelical Zionist of the Empire of lies …to “attack the Orthodox Houses of God in the Ukraine and Palestine! Every Christian ,Jew, and Muslim knows “Only Evil forces” attack the Original Churches of Christ! Who else but God , could breach the Twisted minds of billions of beeivers of God ….by Trillions and Trilllions of money by the Great Deceivers army in the Media and U.S government ! NO ONE, BUT GOD! AND THE CORRUPT POPE ..KNOWS IT HE KNOWS THAT HE WILL NOT HAVE A “PASSPORT TO HEAVEN”….IF HE DOES NOT FULFILL HIS RESPONSIBILITIES OF GOD TO RULE THE WORLD BASED ON GODS LAWS , NOT MAN’S ….
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“Unfortunately for you lambros, Mistotakis, Bartholomew, Biden ..in God New World Order …it is the Orthodox and Christian Churches and all those believers in God ..must do what it must to keep the corrupted representatives and leaders of Greece and Europe in line … with Gods laws! I mean , Rev Martin luther king ..ordered the removal of the U.S government officials for violating the laws of God ..in killing 3 million Asians in Vietnam , and killing and oppressing the human rights of Poor Blacks and Whites” let me remind you Lambros …Lyndon Johnson resigned from office by stating that he would be leaving the Government and not seek re-election because he offended God and the church! let me help you…lambros again ! This is what the New World order is going to look like ..and it will ..keep you in line, and all your Elitist Friends …..
“Meanwhile we in the churches and synagogues have a continuing task while we urge our government to disengage itself from a disgraceful commitment. We must continue to raise our voices if our nation persists in its perverse ways in Vietnam. We must be prepared to match actions with words by seeking out every creative means of protest possible.”
Rev. Martin luther King Jr.
lAMBROS … i WOULD SUBMIT , THAT BOTH YOU AND i WILL BENEFIT FROM GOD PREDOMINANCE POSITION OVER THE WORLD , NOT YOUR jEWISH AND EVANGELCIAL IONIST CABAL THAT PARADES THRU THE HALLS OF THE U.S GOVERNMENT!
Michael
You are lucky. Nick wants to spare you the embarrassment of your illogical rants being shot down by me. He deletes them. If he allowed my replies, you would see the error of your ways. And there are many
Nick, Michael is itching for me to reply to him. He keeps referring to me. The other day you deleted two of my replies to him. If you dont delete them, I’ll reply
To Michael and Lambros: I truly don’t have enough time in a day to moderate this discussion- if we can call it that – between you two. We can organize a meeting, I can get you connected so you can keep at each other in private and several other options. But Helleniscope is about this community with our beautiful historical background, and how to make her a better part of this wonderful country of ours and the world we all live in. Please let’s not try to kill each other to prove that we are good Greeks. As a nation we have been doing this very successfully for over 3000 yrs. Let’s make our comments have a positive orientation. Soon this country and the whole humanity will wake up into a different reality and I believe we have a contribution to make… The villains of the past have very much lost the game… let’s learn the lessons and let’s help shape the future. Yes, I know I have to make myself much clearer… I will soon…
Yes , Lambros , I have been itching for a long time for you to reply to my post and others which demand you provide anything to support your Fabrications That make yours , Patrick Theros, TNH, State Department , U.S. Government and Congress “Enemies”..the “Enemies of Greece , Europe and the World…and that does not make any of you ..believers in God or his sons! I have ask to tell us what “Putin and Russia have done in the last 50 years to Greece , America or the world that supports your claims that Putin and Russia ..are mortal threat to the peace and security of my family or yours? I have asked you to reply to me and the readers… as to how 57 Greek Civilians and hundreds of thousands of Orthodox Christians of the Ukraine and Greek Americans and Americans have benefitted from your “Pro White Supremacist Biden Zionist regime and Government running a Criminal enterprise with criminal foreign policy of world domination and destruction other than your “MATERIAL AND INTELLIGENCE ” BENEFITS! NOW YOU CLAIM TJAT HELLENISCOPE HAS DEPRIVED YOU OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO EMBARRASE ME AND SEE THE ERRORS IN MY WAYS…IN RANTING MY “PRO GOD ” POST! SO NOW i KNOW WHO HAS DEPRIVED ME AND THE READERS OF INFORMATION THAT IN THE INTERESTS OF HELLENISCOPE HAS WOULD NOT ALLOW lAMBROS..THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT ALL HIS ” ALLEGED FABRICATIONS” ! WELL NICK … YOU SHOULD ALLOW lAMBROS TO TELL US …THAT WE ARE WRONG…IN TRUSTING IN GOD ! ADDITIONALLY , YOU SHOULD NOT CUT OUT MY POST REPLYING TO LAMBROS POST . “WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO …WHEN A WAR CRIMINAL IS NOW A PEACEMAKER OF GOD! HOWEVER NICK , IF YOUR GOING TO CALL “BALLS AND STRIKES” ..AS A FORMER DIVISION ONE PITCHER IN COLLEGE ..THE ONLY THING i WANTD FROM MY UMPIRE WAS A “CONSISTENT BALL AND STRIKE ZONE” AND THAT WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHETHRE THE UMPIRE WAS RIGHT OR WRONG”
hELLENISCOPE … “WHAT WOULD PETER PAN BE WITHOUT CAPTAIN lAMBROS HOOK” NOBODY!
Nick. Again you’re not being fair. You delete my posts and you want us to start over again and then you let Michael write all that trash. Even in caps lock. I am not wanting to monopolize the comments. They write to me and I reply. Obviously you don’t agree with my positions. But then, it would be a boring world if everyone agreed. I’m sure we agree on that.
Lambros I have no time to deal with your trolling. There is a difference between opposing views and trolling. If you tell me that Mitsotakis had the right to introduce the same-sex law that is opposed by the overwhelming majority of the people (instead of having a referendum) then you are spammed. Period, end of story.
Nick. What I’m saying, and its not trolling, is that a government does not have to submit a referendum for the approval of any legislation. A government has the mandate to lead. If voters disagree, then, they can vote them out of office at the next election. I don’t understand why you dismiss this reality. You’re politically astute. Tell me where I’m wrong. If
Lambros, I am reaching the end of the line here. I cannot instill logic or democratic practices to someone who is not open to understand these. A few years ago the Greek government secured the rights of homosexual couples by instituting “civil unions” which solved all of their practical problems including inheritance. The one problem that was not solved (adopting children) was not their “right” by any measure – on the opposite it was an attack of the right of children and an attack on the institution of the family as it was established through the centuries.
To understand how wrong Mitsotakis was you have to move to the issue of the “Name of Macedonia” and consider that he was elected on the promise not to bring to the Greek Parliament the Prespa Agreement for ratification until the Skopie government proved that they could change their constitution and apply this Agreement fully in their country. He is now ready to break his pre-election promise and bring the Prespa Agreement for ratification, ignoring his pre-election promises. The same parties who voted for same-sex marriage plan to vote for this ratification. And he also plans to ignore the huge opposition inside his party – ignoring the most basic democratic principle and allying with the Left to impose on the right-wing majority of Greece policies that are unacceptable FOR THOSE WHO PUT HIM IN POWER.
Please do not bother responding to this. It’s the end of this discussion.
What’s the world coming to? Turkey being the peacemaker! The perpetrator of ethnic cleansing and the “founder” of mass murder is positioning herself as a peacemaker.
Greece should have been the mediator but chose a losing one-sided position..
The gay marriage law shows how out of touch Greek politicians are with Orthodoxy. Greece lost the ability to serve as a mediator when both the synods of Constantinople and Athens recognized the schismatic entity in Ukraine.
Russia-Ukraine received the faith from the Greeks one thousand years ago. What has been happening in Greece is tragic. The Greek politicians and their indifference to Orthodoxy has allowed Turkey to enter as mediator between Moscow and Kiev.
Mitsotakis should have adopted a neutral position like Hungary. Instead, he insults the Russians at every opportunity. The church of Greece needs to keep up the fight on gay marriage and try to mend ties with the Russians by rejecting the fake Church.
Patriarch Kyril this week praised The Greeks for converting the Russians and hoped Greeks would fight the new law. The Russians seem to still love the Greeks despite everything.
Jesus said, “Blessed are the peacemakers, because they will be called sons of God” (Matt. 5:9). Into a world that is ugly with violence and hate, Jesus sends us as peacemakers.
Yes Lambros…”What has the world come to .when God chooses to send an Alleged Mass Murderer Edroigan of Turkey who he calls a child of God to be a “Peacemaker” , but who the Greek Orthodox governments of Greece and Cyprus call them “Nato Allies of America and Greece! What it means Lambros and Nick ..is that the Self Porclimed leaser of the New World order and Savior of the world ..the U.S government are not considered Children of God , but children of Satan ,based on Gallop Polls of the World which reveals that the international community of countries of the world consider the United States “the greatest threat to the Security and Peace of the world ” Not Turkey or Russia ! What lambros he did not send Zionist Joe Biden, the Mass Murderer and butcher of millions of Muslims and Christian civilians in the MIddle East and Europe because he failed to bring Peace to Ukraine, and Palestine , and who vetoed Russian and Chinese approved Cease fire demands which would have given the children of Palestine and Ukraine peace rather than Death!
Jesus tells us ..that he comes in judgement into this world so the Blind can see and those who can see will go Blind! Get over it Lambros …you , the State department , Media, and U.S congress are rapidly being Blinded from this world ..and he even mocks the Greek Orthodox leaders of Greece and Cyprus ..and Bartholomew by sending a “Muslim” leader to save and bring Peace to the Orthodox Christians Clergy, Churches and Faithful of Ukraine and Russia, now being forced marched to their deaths by a Jewish Zionist regime in KIev , Washington and Tel Aviv and now estimated at 600, 000 !
Imagine that , the alleged murderer of Orthodox Christians of Greece , Turkey and Cyprus is now chose by God to be a peacemaker which if successful will save ..possibly 2.4 billion Christians who would be sacrificed by the Jewish and Evangelical Zionist of America ! Just think Nick …how many Arab countries would love to see ..the Christian Nations of America , Russia, Europe, Ukraine , Greece “Blow themselves up ” and let the Jews and Arabs rule over their Ashes! God works in Mysterious ways..but this is no Mystery to a Pro God Greek Orthodox Christian. What is happening Lambros to the world …and exorcism , that last happened 2000 years ago! What say you Lambros ! Do you beleive in God?
How times change…
Why didn’t both of them get the hint when the Pope of Rome “prayed for peace in the Ukraine” 10 years ago and TV showed the world what happened to the two doves he released as part of this ceremony?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Hgw0LFK88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ_JnOi4q7w
“…τον Παπα να καταρασθε…αυτος θα ειναι η αιτια του κακου…” – St. Kosmas Aitolos (18th century)
The maps showing the prewar ethnic distributions and the current battle fronts line up pretty closely. The outline of a settlement or even just an armistice is so evident. And yet the Biden administration sadly continues to endorse Zelensky’s extreme hope of recapturing land all the way to the 1991 borders.
Will a president Trump be willing to tell Zelensky to take a settlement along the current line of control? I hope so.
President Trump in 2017-18 had already accepted, rightfully so, that Crimea belongs to Russia. With every week that goes by a settlement will be even more difficult.
Hey Nick … hater to bust your bubble …Trump also said he wanted good relations with Russia , and he said he wanted to withdraw all U.S troops and bases from Syria because he was proud that “He defeated ISIS”, and he also said that he was going to clean out the Swamp and corruption which he was elected for by the Populist !
In all these cases the Swamp now called the Jewish and Evangelical Republican and Democratic parties …the official Crime Syndicated running America…not only arrested him instead of him arresting them, they told him..that the Troops must stay in Syria forever to protect not only the security of Americans in America but the Jewish Zionist State of Israel, , but started a war that has killed hundreds of thousands of Civilians and soldiers in the Ukraine! I am an independent Nick , who voted for Trump , like many which gave him his victory! They told him to sanction the Nordsteam pipeline and he did, well before they blew it up !
I would vote for Trump because he is merely less Insane than these monsters! However, this year I will have to make a decision …Knowing what we know ..why would Americans want to vote Republicans who have been partners in continuing the war in Ukraine …and demonstrating no concious in force marching Orthodox Christians to their death!
Nick .. I would watch the ” Independent Vote very carefully”!
Those are my conclusions , I thought your readers may be interested in hearing or not !
Michael… please, we have no choice but to stand by Trump.
No President ever won on Independent ticket – pal, don’t waste your vote.
Yes on surface , you are right Zoey, but you can say that about any Party Communist , Marxist or Fascist government in History! The Democratic Zionist Party and their Godfather Biden have called “Donald Trump and the Evangelical /Protestant dominant population of America and the U.S congress for ever in America ..”White Supremacist Terrorist and fascist undermining the democracy of America , while the “Evangelical /Protestant Zionist Republican Party call Joe Biden and the Zionist Democratic Party ” Satanic Marxist cult undermining the democracy of America! In the end , Zoey…they are simply .. Two Competing Crime Syndicates who use “Violence and Fear” to monopolize the Power and money of America and the world !
And right now , if Trump was a Real Patriot ..who would run as independent ..and with his support from the populist ..represents the best chance for America to break up this Crime Syndicate without firing a shot
Zoey, it was not uncommon at all ..for Monopolies like At&T to be broken up , or for that matter Consumer goods corporation , like lets say Amazon, Microsoft etc etc .! The Republican and Democratic Political Organization are not Government entities ..they are Private Political Organization ..who should be subject to the “Anti Trust regulations of our Constitution! “What Zoey.. when corporations sales in a Market thru Predatory Spending practices which put competing companies out of business , including smaller busineses in a particular Market Area, or National and International Market they are subject to significant Penalties financially , and more importantly, legal break up of their corporations ! Of course …the Independent Party President has ever won an election , and never will , because the “Predatory Spending Practices” which are defined violation in oppressing competing businesses enterprises , and which the Justice department should have charged both the Political monopolies of America with doing ..and lead to the break up of these monopolies , and protection of third party or ever fourth parties to compete for the representation of the People of America! What do you not understand ..about the Economic Sanctions and Spending policies of the Republican and Democratic ruling parties against Russia in the European Market… they are designed to obstruct a Competing Business Enterprise ..called Russia from sharing in the Economic, Political and Military
Assets of Greece, Cyprus , America , Europe or the Middle East and world ! And both parties leave us with no choice , but support their criminal activities ..and that includes voting for President of the United States!
When Donald Trump …”Say’s he want to make America First and Great” as an independent one would beleive he meant putting ” the interests of American first, not foreign and domestic Olgarchs and leaders of Israel , and Europe and America …like Peace and security of American rights , Freedoms , cleaning out the massive corruption in the American Government , ending all illegal Regime change wars and interventions,
and most importantly . have good relations with Russia ..which benefits the entire world! Instead, he allowed the Evangelical /Protestants Zionist Just think ..who was his Republican V.P Mike Pence … and do I have to remind you ..who has represented the interest of the Jewish Zionist Regimes of Ukraine and Israel to oppress the Ukrainian Orthodox Church and commit genocide of Orthodox and Catholic Christians , and Muslims houses of God and their faithful in Palestine!
Zoey… again I do not dispute your argument , because you are right , but I am also right ..and stand by my choices! It will be very Critical to me ..to see who Trumps running mates will be and stated cabinent members will be ! This time if we see …John Bolton, Mike Pompeo , Eliot Abrams or any of the many recommended appointees of the RNC ..on that list ..you and I should have no choice but to either not vote or vote for a “Losing Independent or third party!