Your All-Holiness, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew!

I address You on behalf of the numerous and much-suffering flock and clergy, monastics, and laity of the Cherkasy Eparchy of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

Please do not consider my direct appeal to You as an act of audacity or a disregard for ecclesiastical etiquette or protocol. I have two weighty reasons for this.

The first is that, in times past, long before the events connected with the granting of the Tomos to the OCU, when we served together and conversed at the ancient monastery of Panagia Soumela, and also had prolonged discussions at the Phanar, You Yourself granted me this right—to speak with You directly concerning the problems of Orthodoxy in Ukraine. And I would sin before God and before men if I did not avail myself of this right now. The second reason is the tragic circumstances in which my eparchy, and indeed all of Orthodoxy in Ukraine, now finds itself.

The Cherkasy Eparchy, which I head, is one of the most afflicted eparchies of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. It has suffered at the hands of, to use the words of the Gospel, “thieves and robbers” from the so-called “Orthodox Church of Ukraine,” who “did not enter through the door” into the Church’s fence but “climbed in by some other way” (John 10:1). They did this according to Your decision, Your All-Holiness. And now, like thieves and robbers, they dare to boss in the vineyard of Christ. They beat and wound the servants of the True Master—Christ; they divide His children’s garments among themselves; they overturn baskets and trample the grapes. For their crimes in Cherkasy, the representatives of the OCU have not been punished, and their misdeeds have still not received due moral condemnation from Your side, Your All-Holiness. Although all of us here in Ukraine were eagerly awaiting this.

Recently, You gave an interview to French television. It coincided with the visit to my cathedral city of Cherkasy by the leader of the “Orthodox Church of Ukraine,” created by Your blessing, Epiphanius Dumenko. He performed his rite in Cherkasy—which I dare not call a divine service—in my cathedral, bloodily seized by militants less than a year ago. The blood of monks and priests had not yet fully dried on the cathedral’s flagstones; the wounds on the bodies of Cherkasy’s confessors of the faith had not yet healed, and yet Mr. Dumenko had already arrived at the seized cathedral and unlawfully ascended my cathedra. He performed his rite using stolen liturgical vessels, including the Chalice which was personally gifted to me by my spiritual children many years ago at my episcopal consecration. He was served by the altar boys wearing liturgical sticharia forcibly taken from us. Meanwhile, on the cathedral’s gallery, adherents of the OCU had piled icons of saints into a heap—saints whom they, for political reasons, do not recognize as saints.

The largest Orthodox temple in Ukraine, the Archangel Michael Cathedral in Cherkasy, was seized by Epiphanius’s partisans in October of last year. During the seizure, priests, monks, and laypeople were maimed. They were gassed with tear gas; their arms, legs, teeth, and heads were broken. They were shot at inside the cathedral itself. My own cassock was being torn to pieces, my staff was broken, and then I was struck on the head with a baton with such force that I suffered a concussion. Only my monastic klobuk, which softened the blow, saved me from certain death. Shortly before the blow and the concussion, I managed to address You, Your All-Holiness, from the altar, besieged by terrorists, where we sat as hostages. I am certain that You saw this appeal.

The corrupt police and prosecutor’s offices and other special services have not given yet, and it seems have no intention of giving, a proper assessment of these crimes committed by representatives of the OCU and their armed mercenaries. And this despite the fact that the Archangel Michael Cathedral in Cherkasy de jure still remains the property of the Cherkasy Eparchy of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which I head, while the invaders are using it simply by the “right of might.”

The Constitution and laws in Ukraine are practically non-functional now, so the lack of reaction to these crimes from the Ukrainian authorities and law enforcement agencies is unsurprising.

But why, Your All-Holiness, have You still not forbidden Your protégés from the OCU to commit these atrocities? After all, You have full authority over them, according to the Tomos You issued. You so often declare that “the Ukrainian Orthodox people are in Your heart.” So why, then, do You not stop these criminals? Why have You not even uttered a single word of sympathy or support for the beaten and maimed faithful residents of Cherkasy, Chernivtsi, Ivano-Frankivsk, and other regions of Ukraine, if we are “in Your heart”?

Even the United Nations has already given its due assessment of the events in Cherkasy, condemning these crimes committed on religious grounds and calling on the Ukrainian authorities to react immediately. The UN sounded the alarm; in a strictly official document, UN representatives (special rapporteurs) drew attention to the forcible seizure of the cathedral in Cherkasy and the bloody beating of its defenders, including myself. The UN called for an immediate investigation of this crime.

In Your interview with French television, You stated that You do not regret creating the so-called “Orthodox Church of Ukraine.” And You should regret it!

Our Church was in a very similar situation after the October state coup at the beginning of the 20th century, when the new Bolshevik authorities instituted persecutions against Christians. They persecuted the Church, among other means, through the hands of the newly created pseudo-church of the Renovationists. Then, to great regret, Your predecessor on the throne, Ecumenical Patriarch Gregory VII, sided with the Renovationists, legitimizing them. Patriarch Gregory not only demanded that Saint Patriarch and Confessor Tikhon abandon his throne but also, through his representative, Archimandrite Basil, blessed the pseudo-council of the schismatic Renovationists. He blessed it with an epistle containing the words, “I am with you from afar!” This same representative of the Ecumenical Patriarchate was officially an honorary member of the Renovationist pseudo-synod and constantly participated in the schismatic, blasphemous “worship services” of the 1920s.

Now, a century later, the situation is repeating itself with almost 100% accuracy. The state authorities of Ukraine are persecuting our Church and doing everything for its total destruction. The “Orthodox Church of Ukraine,” created with Your direct involvement, is directly participating in this.

Then, in the 20th century, our people magnanimously forgave Your predecessor for betraying our Church and collaborating with the Communists in persecuting it.

Whether our pious people will forgive You this time as well is a great question. For much blood and suffering have been brought upon our land by the schismatics whom You introduced into the Church—introduced by bypassing the doors, without repentance, without lawful ordination. Introduced “by some other way,” as it is said in the Holy Gospel (John 10:1).

Therefore, it was very strange to hear Your words that in years or decades, a unification of the OCU with our Church will become possible. Believe me, this will not happen, for there can be no union of Christ with Belial. Therefore, Your current uncompromising position, expressed to French television, is very dangerous and destructive. It has every chance of becoming the trigger, the mechanism that will initiate a second great schism in the Church.

From personal conversations with You, I remember that You would like to be an active participant in healing the first great schism of the Church in 1054. But in fact, Your All-Holiness, You may become the cause of a second great and irreversible schism of world Orthodoxy. And if You do not realize this now, Your successors on the throne will inevitably realize it sooner or later, as they will have to clean up these Augean stables. Whether they will succeed in doing so is unknown. But this will certainly darken the memory of Your name in church history.

Today, given the obvious lawlessness of the OCU, You, Your All-Holiness, have all the moral and canonical grounds to put an end to them and to stop the persecution of the Church in Ukraine. You now have not only many reasons but also all the effective levers of influence to correct this tragic mistake. For its fruits have already become evident to the entire oikoumene.

Yes, it is not easy for anyone to change their decisions, let alone a hierarch in Your respected position and venerable age. But can some personal honor, or even the honor of the throne You head, be for You higher than the real salvation of world Orthodoxy from a new great schism? Can personal honor become for You an obstacle to stopping the sufferings of millions of Orthodox Christians in Ukraine?

This is impossible to believe. This is something one does not wish to believe.

Your All-Holiness, the faithful of Ukraine will not believe this while You are alive. They, shedding their blood, will hope that the Lord will grant You a change of mind and a change of Your decisions! For we are now undergoing real persecution from the godless authorities in Ukraine and their loyal servants—the so-called “clergy” of the OCU.

Of course, to rectify the situation, it will not be enough simply to revoke the Tomos that you issued to the “Orthodox Church of Ukraine.” The main thing that can now calm the agitation in world Orthodoxy, reconcile its hierarchs from different countries, and heal the incipient new great schism is the revocation of Your legitimization of the Ukrainian schismatics. They must repent of the sin of schism, and only then can the question be raised of performing lawful ordinations upon them. Moreover, these questions cannot be resolved in any way without the participation of the canonical, historically established Mother Church for Ukrainian Orthodoxy—the Russian Orthodox Church, regardless of any political problems of the present day.

And this, in turn, will be impossible without Your rejection of the doctrine alien to the spirit of Church Conciliarity concerning the “first without equals,” which You personally openly proclaimed for the first time on French television. But all of this is absolutely necessary. Otherwise, canonical order and justice will never be restored in world Orthodoxy. And thus, the bloody wound of the new schism will never be healed, and the year 2019 will become for the Church as tragic a milestone as 1054 was in its time.

We place our hope, Your All-Holiness, in Your wisdom and in Your ability to humble Yourself before the ways of God, which are so clearly revealed today to the entire Orthodox world by the Lord. They are revealed in the confessor’s feat of the Church-Martyr, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. They are also revealed in the anti-Christian behavior and malice of the artificially created OCU.

Today, in Your hands lies both the future peace of the oikoumene and the hypothetical, irreversible schism of world Orthodoxy. We beg You, do not make a fatal mistake, Your All-Holiness.

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21 COMMENTS

    • They have sown their own seeds of destruction…and the seeds have sprouted and are growing like a cancer. We cannot see the future but I find it impossible to believe that such brazenly hostile acts against The Lord’s Church by this man in Istanbul and his cohorts in the US and elsewhere will remain unpunished.

  2. This quote from the article encapsulates everything in a few words (although, the more optimistic “may become” can easily replaced with “have become”)…

    “…You would like to be an active participant in healing the first great schism of the Church in 1054. But in fact, Your All-Holiness, You may become the cause of a second great and irreversible schism of world Orthodoxy. And if You do not realize this now, Your successors on the throne will inevitably realize it sooner or later, as they will have to clean up these Augean stables. Whether they will succeed in doing so is unknown. But this will certainly darken the memory of Your name in church history….”

  3. Look what is happening to Greece. The Greeks are trapped. The nation’s leaders sold their soul to the IMF, USA, and Israel. Everything Greece stood for is being eradicated one day at a time.

    I left the Greek church after four years of attending every service, and engaging deeply in all matters of the church. Enough was enough for me when spoons were used to distribute holy Communion, when dots were placed on the church floor six feet apart to receive communion, when my temperature was taken by putting a temperature gun to my head at the entrance of the church and recording my temperature by the treasurer of the Durham Greek church.

    For awhile I attended a small OCA church but left there also. I took my Greek Orthodox Christmation seriously. I do not like playing musical chairs with churches.

    I suffered alone for many years since the condition the Greek Orthodox Christianity fell into – hands of Satan. I applaud this bishop! He is a true man of God. Bart sold Greece out. Bart sold the Greek Orthodox Church out with his blasphemy.

    We are living through the darkest of times. Wake up to your gift from God – eternal life or sell your soul to Pompeo, rabbis blessing priests, transvestites paying for babies by implantation of sperm in twisted women seeking a buck or two. Let us not forget the statue dedicated to Bart sitting on a bench, the hell the people of the real church of Ukraine suffered and died for! Bart hails Satan! Check out the cathedral you paid for to be built in New York! You even went along with that catastrophe.

    Your prayers are not enough. They are weak and worthless because all of you do nothing to stop it. Begin with your own church. Begin by refusing to give any money to your own church. Write a letter to the priest who obeys Bart the satanist and tell him why you cannot attend a church that goes along with Bart’s decrees. The Lord is waiting for you to DO SOMETHING.

    • Jane, I think we have to be careful. You do not know that our prayers are “not enough” and “they are weak and worthless”. Some things must happen. Christ could stop His crucifixion but He did not. Suffering and corruption in Church/Temple took place for thousands of years. Yet, Christ did not tell people to stop giving money to church, He did not even stop the poor woman, giving the last couple of coins. I do not give a lot of money to my church because they already have plenty and they waste it on petty projects that are wanted by very few but not needed for most.

      I understand what you say and felt the same at some point and I did speak to my priest and still speak to whoever else listens, but most people do not know and/or do not care. But whenever I am at a cross roads, I search deep into my soul from what I have learned. We have as an example the Virgin Mary and Christ Himself, who did nothing and said nothing even as Christ was crucified. As her own child and God, was crucified, she obeyed the will of the Father and I am sure she was praying and her prayers weren’t weak. It had to happen and she understood this. So am sure that many holy people right now are praying for the persecution to stop, but it won’t, because God allows it, and something good will come out of it at the end. THose people will be saints while barto, well, he won’t be. Saints became saints through hardship and persecution, not by having it easy. I do not know of one saint that had it easy! And no, I do not believe our prayers are worthless. I think most of us forget that God is in charge and he allows certain things to happen, to expose evil and good, but in the end, the ones that endure to the end, will be rewarded accordingly, and that is what matters.

  4. Sandy, prayers are worthless without action.words are worthless without action. Today,, I saw a homeless man near to my shopping center who was doing strange things in the bushes. I shop at this center for 20 years. Doing nothing about this homeless man was not an option.

    He could be starving, He wrapped a sheet around his lower body and a sheet around his upper body. He had paraphernalia with him. He could have a serious mental disease. He might not have medication. He might have anger issues. He might go into one of the stores and knife or hit somebody. He might rob. Etc. etc. I told the owner of the shop I was in. She said, her family member has noticed this man hanging around doing strange things.

    She recorded a video of him. I called the police to help him. When she learned I was talking to the police inside her store, she told me she lost the video as she all of a sudden fiddled with her phone.

    I also had a man in my neighborhood who was getting his truck repossessed. He had a gun fight with the repo man. Nine bullets were shot in my community. Our community was shut down by the police. We have one entrance and exit place only. Glass was all over the street. My neighbor was slumped over his wheel. He was shot. Someone pulled him out of his car. Blood was all over my street. For one week no one cleaned up the blood. I called my HOA and stated children walk to the school bus and see the blood everyday. I used action! They cleaned it up immediately.

    Prayers plus action are necessary. Live in your dream world. Let Bart keep doing what he is doing while you say prayers. He is the cause of many murders and wounded people and the reason why I chose to stop attending church. The priests get a hefty salary to keep you obedient to what? Keep giving your church money and the deaths of all these people in Ukraine trying to save their churches and monasteries – their blood is on your hands. Keep obeying old Bart.

    Prayers without action. Take a long look at America.

    • God can intervene and “cleanse” the Church of corruption in an instant…
      But that would be a bit too easy.

      The real reason why corruption has rooted [especially] in the Greek Church is two-fold…

      1) because a large enough percentage of laity has been complacent and “luke-warm” for decades, and keep donating without protesting the slippery slope the hierarchs have been leading us on…the “corrupt innovators” keep pushing the boundaries of this complacency, with incrementally worse actions year after year…

      2) “good, able men” are purposely not ordained or promoted to the rank of bishop or archbishop, in favor of “other candidates” that are “preferred” by the existing corrupt Synods (Greece, Cyprus, etc)…the age-old Tradition and Right of the laity’s voice of participation in the election of spiritual leaders has long been ignored and silenced. Again, this passive “lack of response” takes us back to item “1” above…lukewarm and complacent laity…

      If a lot more people than just you and a handful of others don’t start reacting to the “Unworthy ones” that are currently “in control”, real change won’t be possible.

  5. Sandy, I started a neighborhood watch in my community. We now alert one another asap if we see or hear something. After nine bullets were shot. Action speaks louder than words. Why do you think people are buying doorbell cameras?

    • Jane, what action did Virgin Mary use? Or Christ? Or the saints, while they were persecuted? If you have been in Church so many years I am sure you know the lives of the saints. I did bring it up the persecution in Ukraine with my priest and my dissatisfaction with Barto. He did nothing. No one else is even talking about, except maybe 2-3 percent of us. My priest’s solution is for me not to talk about it, that Barto will be judged for what he is doing. Certainly, he will be judged like the rest of us. Even if I leave this church I accomplish nothing. I do speak to a few people about it. But we have to remember persecution is allowed by God. This is nothing new. The OC has been and will be persecuted. Otherwise, we would have very few saints. It is through persecution that we show what we are made of. Christ himself was persecuted. Communists persecuted Christians and now we have many, many new saints. And let’s not forget who persecuted Christ? The high priests of His time. So again, what do you expect? The high priest of today, the “one without equals” is doing the same thing. There will always be Judas, until the end of time. The solutions you are talking about are wordily. These kinds of solutions are for wordily problems. Fr. Ephraim says there will be a synod and all this will be cleared up and solved. When? Probably when the hierarchy will be enlightened by God so that they vote according to His teachings, not their own delusions. In the mean time, we have prayer as our staff and we should all increase it, and we have the Church as a consolation, a perfect, Holy Church with human error in it. I am not buying any doorbell cameras. I am sure the incident you are talking about is quite isolated. I do not want to live my life that way for one incident that may or may not ever repeat in my life time. When our time comes, we go out of this world because God decides our exit, and doorbell cameras won’t protect us from it.

  6. Also, FYI I am not obeying Old Bart, I had told my priest how I feel about him. I even brought up his delusion with the “one without equals” and many other things. Yes, if there would be many of us taking action, I’d be for it. But I did all that I could do where I am. I brought out the persecution in Ukraine. My priests hopes that OCU and UOC will unite. It is hopeless. I do not share his vision at all, it is like we read a different world history about the saints and the OC, about schismatics and the canonical Church. OCU will always be schismatics and there is not hope for union IMHO, not now and not ever. So when I will have enough maybe I will leave. And what will that accomplish? I do not give much money at all and I volunteer very little. There is nothing more that I could do except if I would have a calling from God for action, which I DO NOT.

  7. Sandy, thank you for taking the time to reply.

    The priests live in this world, too. They are worldly. Without worldly money, they cannot survive. The priests do not want to risk losing their worldly money. They prefer to acquiesce to the demands of their blasphemous patriarch.

    This patriarch is the cause of the schism in Ukraine. He abandoned his flock to do the bidding of the US State Department. If only a small fraction of the Greek Orthodox are willing to start the ball rolling, a movement toward returning sanity to the Church will grow. The answer lies in stop giving worldly money to your church. Without worldly money a church cannot exist.

    Write a note each time the basket goes around. “I cannot give money because the Patriarch colludes with the government and has abandoned his flock.”

    We are told to put on the armor of God. Are we not? Is it better to continue going to church knowing the truth but denying the truth to look like a good Greek Orthodox Christian?

    God is within each one of us. He does not live at the church. The men running the church do not really care if you show up or do not show up. They care to keep the status quo and raise money to build more churches and collect their hefty salaries.

    The priests are frightened, too. Bishop Theodosius is a brave bishop. His letter to the Patriarch is stupendous! He speaks his truth! When will the laity start speaking up?

    It begins with me. One member of the church at a time. Stop giving money. Money talks in this worldly world we live.

    I do not take it lightly that I stepped back from church. I also refuse to vote now. I do not vote for corrupt leaders or acquiesce to their evil machinations. Is it lonely? I do not care if it’s lonely. I care about truth. And the truth shall set us free. I have sinned much in my worldly life. I truly took my Chrismation very seriously. The Patriarch abandoned all of us to lick the boots of the US State Department. He does not really care about any of us. Covid was my wake up call. I started putting things together in my head once I saw what we were told to do in church…walk on dots, sit 6 feet apart, have temperature guns take our temperature before we can enter the church. Take communion with personal spoons. Accept transvestites and homosexuals adopting babies from surrogate mothers. I wonder how those babies are doing?

    I wonder how the true Ukrainian Orthodox Christians are doing that were wounded are doing? What was done to them? Bart killed them. He gave the order! How are the monks, nuns, and priests doing in Ukraine since the tomos? Do they have food, shelter and medical care? Who cares in American Greek Orthodox churches? I tell you it begins with each of us looking deeply into our own heart. Stop feeding Bart!

    If if wasn’t for Helleniscope, I never would have learned the truth. I am not running from the church. I live quietly by myself with my Orthodox Christian Bible and a huge cross above my bed. I am 76 years old. In the world but not of the world. I know God is in charge. I await my judgement day in peace and serenity. I will not support the Church money train, nor the crazy “green” BART. And yes, I do miss church very much.
    No one is knocking on my door with concern for my absence. It’s okay. Hypocrisy abounds. I want no part of it.

  8. Jane,
    I am familiar with the Ukraine situation, more than most. Before I found out about Helleniscope, I was following the thefts, beatings, destruction to the temples, etc live, on youtube. Most of them are still present on line. So I am very well aware of what happened and continues to happen.

    “I wonder how the true Ukrainian Orthodox Christians are doing that were wounded are doing? What was done to them? Bart killed them. He gave the order! How are the monks, nuns, and priests doing in Ukraine since the tomos? Do they have food, shelter and medical care? Who cares in American Greek Orthodox churches? I tell you it begins with each of us looking deeply into our own heart. Stop feeding Bart!”

    One of the worst situaltion is Metr. Arseny. He spent the last 2 Easter in jail. They detain them and keep postponning his trial. Sometimes they cut his heat. Sometimes they don’t give him water and food for at least a day. He is not the only one. THere is a lady that is a civil rights attorney and she was arrested at Lavra and was kept in jail with no food and no water for 3 days. The abuses are well documented by the Ukrainian orthodoxy journalists here: https://spzh.eu/en/
    They also have a presence on youtube. So does Metr. Theodosy. I saw the attacks to his cathedral life. The beasts beat him up and gave him a concussion. They beat him up with his staff. Stole $60000 from his church that the faithful donated for a bell for the church. Stole his clothing and the ocu “bishiops” wore his stolen clothing. Opened fire with guns in the Church. I do know it and will speak to anyone about it that wants to hear. Metr. Longhin is also in and out of hospital. He was taken to Intensive care and had heart surgeries out of the mascaraed court proceedings. Reminds of of the communists. He takes care of hundreds of refugees and orphan children, many of who he adopted, yes, hundreds of orphan children was adopted by him, a bishop, even before the war. I follow them the most. I recognize many other bishops and came name them, since the persecution began. I saw them life in court, I used the translator to follow the court proceedings since I do not understand Ukrainian. Only a deaf and blind person could say they don’t know, at this point. Metr. Longhin residence was put on fire. His electricity was cut off. He was also poisoned many times. One of his lawyers was also poisoned and he passed away. All because he speaks against Barto. Those are Bolshevik methods. I do not put any money when they come to collect for Barto. I NEVER did. Not 1 penny.

  9. Sandy, your description of what is going on astounds me. It’s so helpful to me to share with you how I feel, and in turn learn what has traumatized you. I am glad to hear you did not falter and give $ to Bart. But, nothing will change until each church member refuses to give any money at all. Let the church coffers dry up and you will see how quickly Bart changes his tune. Money talks loud and clear. The people who continue to fund each church really not care about their brothers and sisters in Ukraine, or the babies forced to live with trans/ homos from surrogate mothers. What evil abides in church. I will look for some of the videos you mentioned on YouTube.

    Stay strong, do not weaken in your stance. You know the truth. You know the laity is lazy, concerned with itself and coffee hour and honors and trying to look good to the priest. They shed no tears for anyone but themselves.

  10. Jane, one clip you can see here, when these nobodies put their hands on a man of God, Metr. Theodosy is attacked. This is a good channel, if you click on it and you scroll down you will see more attacks: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UeZuo74s6OU
    This is just a little clip but there are other videos documenting shooting in his cathedral, etc. You can hear women screaming. He and other faithful were hurt, they suffer burns to the eyes, cracked bones, skulls, Concussions, etc He is one of the most vocal but not the only one, and this is NOT his only appeal to Barto to stop the persection.

  11. Perhaps in the worst condition right now is Metr. Arseny. Isolated. The others are at least together. They can strengthen each other.
    No trial. Detained since 2024 before Easter and today, yet again, his trial is postponed. It is postponed because they have nothing on him. If there would be a trial, the charade will end.
    https://spzh.eu/en/news/88293-court-hearings-in-the-case-of-metropolitan-arseniy-of-sviatohirsk-postponed
    I have been following his case since 2024. I remember reading one time they took him to trialed in a car, very very hot. And they denied him water the whole day. His hands were cuffed the whole time behind his back, for hours and hours, like a serial killer.

  12. Jane:
    THey are still having “gatherings” in Ukraine for church holidays. This is just an excuse, a justification to arrest him. Yes, he is a metropolitan but also the abbot of Holy Dormition-Svyatogorsk Lavra. The Lavras are really beautiful places and the OCU wants to steal them and expel the monks. If he was anyone else and spoke those words, he would not be in prison right now. They want to ban UOC and expel the monks and they refuse to leave. Those are holy places, like their Mt. Athos. Hundreds of relics. So they put him in jail, but the monks are still there. Faithful are surrounding those holy places and protecting the Lavras. Some of the Lavra churches were stolen, but not all of them. So his monks and the other monks are still there.
    This is not the only time there was a gathering. THere are gatherings and processions in Ukraine all the time. Tens of thousands of people gather and walk for dozens of miles. The UOC sings and say glory to God, while OCU and the other idiots try to block them and often block them from going through, often adding over 10 miles to their processions, but the processions do not stop because they are massive. UOC says Glory to GOd, OCU says Glory to Ukraine. UOC faithful are speat at, urine thrown over them, beaten, cursed, etc. They keep going. They do not stop. This is real faith. And yeah, yeah, if I found out all of this all on my own, Barto knows. OCU is now nicknamed the church of crowbars and grinders, , because they use force to cut the locks on the UCO churches and this is now they steal them, they change the locks and falsify papers, through “voting”, but the people voting are not even orthodox or locals, often times they bus them in.

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