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Prologue
The forced Christianization of Hellas / Greece in the fourth century and after wounded ancient Hellenic / Greek culture but did not completely destroy. In medieval Greece (wrongly dubbed Byzantium), elements of Hellenic culture – for instance, in medicine, agriculture, food and rural life, dancing, theater and fishing – survived for centuries without many destructive changes. In fact, the agrarian culture of the Hellenes (without Dionysos after the twelfth century) filled every corner of the countryside of Greece down to mid-twentieth century.
In areas of thought, which is to say, philosophy, science, literature, theater, and law and justice, the weight of Christianity was crushing. Whatever Hellenic tradition was not extinguished outright, found its way in severely mutilated form into the educational system of the state.
Hellenic traditions in medieval Christian Greece
Christianization did not prevent the learned men of medieval Greece from reading Homer, Thucydides, Plato, Aristotle and showing off their command of Attic Greek – particularly that. But those who had made Plato and Aristotle Christian for their convenience never had any doubt that their Judeo-Christian prophets and saints were superior to Plato and Aristotle.
For example, Michael Psellos, 1018-1096, one of the most distinguished students of Hellenic culture in Christian medieval Greece, admitted that he was a Christian above all. This was a senior bureaucrat who served several emperors with distinction. But when it came to identity and culture, he was torn to pieces between the Hellenic legacy of the Greeks, his Christian theology, and the Christian policy of the state he served. He spoke with anguish that Christianity choked the golden steams of the past (Chronographia 6.43). He defended the Greek legacy of Christian Greece.
Anathemas
However, the substance of the civilization of the educated people of Christian Greece was not Hellenic but Christian. Most of them adhered to the command of church fathers like Clement of Alexandria and Ioannes Chrysostom that Greek literature, eloquence, and philosophy – indeed all of Hellenic culture – were to be avoided at all costs. This is because the Christians set their eyes on cutting the lifeline Greeks had with their culture, studying Homer, the tragic poets, and the philosophers. The Orthodox Church of Christian Greece made it a policy to curse those who sought wisdom and inspiration from the ancient Greeks. Its policy spelled out the prohibition clearly:
“Anathema to those who devote themselves to Greek studies not simply for the sake of education, but who also adopt the foolish doctrines of the ancients and accept them for the truth; anathema to those who so firmly believe such doctrines that they unhesitatingly teach them and commend them to others, both secretly and openly” (J. M. Hussey, Church and Learning in the Byzantine Empire (867-1185) (Oxford, 1937), 94).
With such a hostile and barbarous attitude and measures, the Christians tried to abolish the Greeks’ way of life, self-government, and the study and practice of science, philosophy, literature, education, sports like the naked Olympics, and eusebeia, piety for the gods. The Greeks were forced, on the pain of death, to denounce their ancestors – and stay away from Hellenic literature. However, enough Greeks stayed with their traditions that they passed on to us a critical fraction of their legacy through the Arabic, 8th-10th centuries, and Western Renaissance, 15th-16th centuries. Nevertheless, if one of the converted Greeks had to use any Greek text, for the practice of grammar or rhetoric, for example, the thing to remember was that such work, at best, could be considered no more than a propaideia (introduction) to Christianity’s sacred and revealed wisdom.
Plethon
George Gemistos Plethon, 1355-1452, was a real exception to that rule. He was a Platonic philosopher who lived in the diminished and threatened medieval Greece during the last 100 years of its existence, before it was conquered by the Mongol Turks in 1453. Plethon was an outright Hellene. He taught Plato to Greek students at Mistras, the heart of Peloponnesos right next to ancient Sparta and Mane, during the first 40 years of the fifteenth century. He also introduced Plato to Western Europe through Florence, the center for Greek studies during the fifteenth century. Plethon urged the Greek emperor to be bold and revolutionary as no one else had been in more than a millennium.
At issue, Plethon said to him, was the survival of the Greek people. He pleaded with him to initiate the reconstruction of Hellas by abolishing the crushing rural plantation system in the Peloponnesus and replacing it with an agrarian republic in which there would be no large landowners, tenants, or landless peasants. Those who want to farm, Plethon said, had rights to land for as long as they worked the land themselves and pay taxes. No one owns land. When rural people stop working their land, it reverts to the public domain. Plethon would abolish large plantations, absentee landowners, and the practice of farm workers working the land for the benefit of large farmers. His agrarian reform is probably the most original and radical land reform proposal in the Greek and Western tradition.
Plethon advocated the disbanding of mercenary troops and their replacement with a national Greek army. The polis Plethon had in mind, and, which, he elaborated in his memoranda to the emperor, was to be built on the Platonic model of the philosopher king, a national army to protect it, and small farmers for the producers of food, craftsmen, architects, sculptors, scientists and engineers. He believed that the Greeks of the Peloponnesus were autochthonous. Peloponnesos was always Greek. It was the ideal defensive Greek territory for the revival of Hellas. He advised the king to discard Christianity and return to the Hellenic gods and culture. The king ignored Plethon’s wise advice. The result? Greece was under Turkish rule for about 400 years.
Christianization
The moment that the Eastern Roman empire, which included Greece, became Christian, the fate of the Greek people became that of the state itself. They had to remake themselves through a violent metamorphosis. They dropped from the heights of Hellenic culture to the crude, childish fiction of Christianity. Their born-again identity had to absorb that fiction, making them alien to their very being. They had to worship a foreign dead man for a god, and through their behavior, they had to show to the state and to the church that they believed Christianity’s irrational doctrines. Above all, they had to renounce and forget their history and culture. In fact they had to convince themselves they were not Greeks but Romans.
This story is not a fairy tale. It happened. The Christianization of Hellas dates to approximately 1,600 years ago. The land of Homer – the land of philosophers, scientists, medical healers, poets, historians – Thales, Pythagoras, Hippocrates, Democritos, Aeschylos, Sophocles, Euripides, Aristophanes, Aristarchos, Plato, Aristotle, Euclid, Archimedes, Hipparchos and the astronomical Antikythera computer of genius — still suffers from its alien spiritual conquest. Underneath the modern scientific garb of educated Greeks lurks the old fear of imposed doctrines. Christian names replaced most Greek names. Or they were mixed up. That schizophrenia or invisible psychological schism of who they really are, Hellenes or Christians, prevents them from expressing their being with virtue and courage. The doubt of embracing their ancient culture tends to push them towards foreign ideas and even ideals. They hesitate to immerse themselves, like some foreign philhellenes have been doing, into the ideas of Homer and Thucydides, for example. So, most writing, historical research on ancient Greece and archaeological excavation in modern Greece is credited to foreigners. The worst enemies of modern Greeks, the Germans, are doing most archaeological excavations in Olympia. The French at Delphi. Americans around the Acropolis. Many foreign universities teach ancient Greek, whereas Greek high schools have abandoned it in favor of translated ancient Greek texts.
Personal crisis
In my high school years, we studied Homer in the original, but the study was superficial. We learned nothing about Homer, save from translation of passages from the Iliad and the Odyssey. Meanwhile, our theology teacher spied on some of us going to the movies to admire female beauties like Brigit Bardot. I don’t mean by this that my high school education was useless. No. When I started at the University of Illinois, I received enough transfer credits for my high school courses that I was a college junior upon my admission to the university. The problem was that my high school teachers did not inspire me to study further the literature, history or science of my ancient Greek ancestors or to be proud of my heritage. This ambivalence kept me away from classical studies and opportunities I had at the universities of Illinois, Wisconsin and Harvard. But once I discovered in the decade of the 1980s the timeliness and virtues of ancient Hellenic culture, I did on my own what I should have done at the university. And the fascinating discovery I made on the inestimable value of Greek wisdom coincided with my real life experience at the US Environmental Protection Agency. The more corruption I came across at EPA, the faster I stepped into the philosophy, science and civilization of the ancient Greeks – and Greeks like Plethon who desperately tried to guide the king of the threatened Greek state to reform his government and bring back to life the Hellenic polis in Peloponnesos in order to save the Greek people.
The relevance of Plethon
Plethon had Plato in mind, especially Plato’s Republic, the passionate search for justice, moderation, truth and the supreme virtue of the idea of the beautiful and the good. Plethon was right in the 15th century, and he is right in the 21st century. His agrarian reform proposal to eliminate feudal plantation farming is essential for the survival of healthy land and liberty in America as well. His proposition did away with land ownership, landlords and farmworker slaves. Give small acres of land to those willing and able to farm without toxins and farm workers and you boost democracy, wholesome food and healthy land and, simultaneously, fight the giant in the room: climate chaos. Once the farmer stops raising food, according to Plethon, the land automatically returns to the state. Of course, conventional economists, politicians and agribusiness will denounce this reform and will use the vocabulary they used against Rachel Carson: communism.
The other proposal of Promethean Plethon, national army rather than mercenary, is more appropriate to a democratic society. The other suggestion on religion, is not relevant to the American treatment of religions, save for a strict separation of church and state.
However, Plethon is right about the return of the living Greeks to the eusebeia or piety to the gods of their ancestors. Ditching Christianity in modern Greece would be difficult but not impossible. The state can initiate that political transition by ceasing payments to the clergy and ending subsidies to churches and monasteries. Revive ancient Greek temples. Teach classical studies in all schools, so that children come in touch with the poetry of Homer, and Homer, once again, becomes the teacher of the Greeks. No force should be used in such a transition. However, the state should prohibit Christian, Islamic and Hebrew missionary work by local or foreign missionaries.
Epilogue
History matters. It illuminates the past and the present. The Greeks wrote history but did not learn much from its central conclusion: never fight civil wars.
Ignore history, and the future will punish you severely as much it punished the Greeks. In the Unites States, time has come to teach history as it really happened, not continue teaching the fairy tales of the founders. These fairy tales cover-up the land-grabbing from indigenous Americans and the genocidal policies against them, including the slavery of Africans for working the plantations in America. This mindset guided US foreign policy, overthrowing democracies in Latin America and Iran, and started the Cold War and the dangerous Cuban Missile Crisis. Perhaps, “for our 250th, instead of gifting ourselves parades, ballrooms and fairy tales, we should focus on telling the next generation the truth.”
Allow the unregulated accumulation of wealth or industrial corporate power and you create mountains of toxic pollution, grave inequalities and billionaires that behave like autocrats/tyrants – hardly any different than the feudal lords of the dark ages.
Ignore the history of climate change/chaos and the price may be catastrophic for the life and future of our children. Just because petroleum companies and petrostates and their paid propagandists deny the anthropogenic effects on the furies of the weather and climate it does not mean we should accept those dangerous delusions.




Mr. Vallliantos has no grasp of American agribusiness. Crop prices are the same as in the 1970’s while inputs such as machinery, seed, and fuel / lubricants have risen many times. I was raised in the same Illinois in which he studied. Today, the barns which once held hundreds and thousands of cattle and hogs are empty: there is no profit except at massive scale. Farming has become industrial. The only way to survive is through debt-leveraged purchase of neighboring farms and to have one’s wife work in town. And that’s a gamble. Mr. Valliantos should have visited American farms and had real conversations with veteran farmers. He clearly did not.
The article by Valianatos is too long to take on, falsehood by falsehood. Yes, it is mostly false.
I think the “professor” reads too much of the switch of ancient religions to Christianity. Doesn’t he know that change is the only constant? Crying over spilled milk makes no sense. And no, the ancient faiths were no better than Christianity.
First of all, he says that now, we worship a “foreign dead god”. Doesn’t he know that ancient Greeks worshipped many foreign and domestic dead gods?
He says the conversion was “forced”. Forceful conversions were the norm at the time. You had to belong to a certain faith. You couldn’t be agnostic or atheist. Sacrificing to the emperor-good at the time was mandatory.
The fact that Christianity was a monotheistic faith, meant that worship of other gods was forbidden. However, Greeks innovated. Christianity today is anything but monotheistic. Trinity alone presupposes more than one god. Then, the adoption of saints, each with his (or hers) specialty, such as Poseidon-St Nicholas, substituted ancient gods with saints.
Then, the designation of goddess Athena and Artemis as virgins, was substituted with Panagia.
Ancient religions were not as humane as we might think. For one, poverty was considered as something that the poor person deserved. So there was no philanthropy. The power of the strong was celebrated, with no empathy for the weak. The demise of democracy was a product of Greek on Greek wars, which weakened Greece itself, which fell to Rome’s autocracy. Democracy had gone out of style way before Christianity was formed.
Ancient philosophers’ writing were rescued by monks in monasteries. And let’s not forget the fact that Christianity’s philosophy is almost totally based on philosophic thought of the time.
I would even venture that Christianity is more Greek than many other foreign gods that Greeks were worshipping at the time. Such as the Egyptian and Middle Eastern gods.
Christianity, with its spread, tied the world closer together than the myriad religions of the time. It did not bring peace, because violence is a human condition. And the world is not perfect, no matter who you believe in. But Christianity is the best faith that we could hope for, if we had a choice.
I would argue that Christianity would not exist as a philosophical system without Stoic philosophy. Also let’s not forget the destruction wrought on Athens and elsewhere by Byzantine emperors Theodosius and Justinian.
Nick. We are both correct. I’m surprised that Valianatos, in his rush to condemn Christianity–not talking about organized religion, such as the GOA–but the unfiltered original faith, which was formed by St Paul, was based on Greek philosophy. Jewish contributions were the emphasis on the soul only, to the detriment of the human body and its needs, but the improvement was philanthropy, unknown to the ancients, plus brotherhood of men, something unknown to the Greco Roman world.
The destruction of Athens and other Greek cities were not an aberration. Alexander burnt Thebes to the ground. Athens was vandalzed by other Athenians and the Spartans. Some islands that rebelled against Athens’ rule were totaly depopulated. There was no Greek city that escaped destruction at the hands of the enemy of the time. The fact that Byzantines did it, was not unusual.
In Valianatos’ epilogue, I agree with many of his ideas. The burning of fossil fuels, and the neglect of progress on energy alternatives by this administration is moronic, but it only reflects the thinking of voters, who chose this administration. I m not one of them. But let’s keep in mind. History is replete with great mistakes. People don’t always do the right thing. Voting for a selfish narcissist and ignorant president is one of those errors. ,
The manifesto of an an atheist. These people deny Christ and are enemies of the Gospel.
Kazantzakis was also called an atheist and he was proven to be more godly than the corrupt thieves, the so-called “hierarchs” of the Ecumenical Patriarchate who pretend to be Christians… Yet they are not ashamed to invite “gay escorts” in their Metropolis buildings…
Nick, are you suggesting that one can be a Christian without acknowledging Jesus as the Messiah. Please read the creed, the fathers and Scripture and you will see that the acknowledgement of Jesus as the Messiah is primary and central to the Christian message. Christian is not some random name but rather a proclamation- Christ people. The flaws of individuals do not erase the fundamental beliefs of Christianity.
What I know for sure is that one CANNOT be a Christian by acting the way our hierarchs have been acting for a long time now. Big loud proclamations about “Jesus my God and Savior” are more typical of the Evangelical Christians Zionists and they sound fake and pharisaic proclamations… You can proclaim “Jesus is your God and Savior all you want” but if you support in practice homosexuality and you practice theft and exploitation you are NOT a Christian.
So Nick , you are saying that one can be a Christian without believing in Christ. This has nothing to do with evangelical Christianity. Please read the creed. Many of us fall short of our calling as Christians. As for some of these hierarchs, I question whether they believe in Christ or just like the outfits and the attention.
I am just saying that someone who makes loud proclamations about being a Christian is not necessarily a Christian if his deeds do not match his procalamations… Period
Valianatos is more of an anti-christian, which is his prerogative, than anti-cleric, like Kazantzakis was. Judging from this piece of Valianatos, he’s not even an atheist, since he takes on Christianity, while telling us that the ancient religions were better. Christ was anti-cleric. Christ was killed by the clerics of the temple. Anas and Caiafas. Not by the Romans or the Jews. He was killed by the establishment of his time.
Yes Russell , you are absolutely correct , but Mr.Valliantos did give us incite as to how the U.S empire which includes Greece and Cyprus is going to make them Jewish Zionist and how this impact them for generations !
He highligt at the very moment that the Eastern Roman empire, which included Greece, became Christian, the fate of the Greek people became that of the state itself. They had to remake themselves through a violent metamorphosis. They dropped from the heights of Hellenic culture to the crude, childish fiction of Christianity. Their born-again identity had to absorb that fiction, making them alien to their very being. They had to worship a foreign dead man for a god, and through their behavior, they had to show to the state and to the church that they believed Christianity’s irrational doctrines. Above all, they had to renounce and forget their history and culture. In fact they had to convince themselves they were not Greeks but Romans. Now they have to convince themselves they are not Greeks , but American and Israeli’s !
Nick, that’s not the point. Read the article. This man rejects Christ. He claims Christians believes in a dead God, quit the opposite we believe in a living God who conquered death. He encourages a return tp paganism. This is simple yet you continue to support an unsupportable position.
My personal views on the meeting of Hellenism and Christianity are best repeated here – time to revisit….
https://www.helleniscope.com/2025/11/12/christianity-and-hellenism-in-their-encounter-by-fr-georgios-metallinos/
So let’s get this straight, you believe one can be a Christian and not believe in Christ and furthermore reject and ridicule Him as this professor does.
You can proclaim to believe in Christ and not be a Christian for sure!… Proclamations have little value for me!… The Pharisees made the biggest proclamations. Did these proclamations mean a thing? NO
To put it in another way: which is the preeminent virtue in Christianity? I was happily surprised the other day to hear my 22-yr old son to not hesitate one second for the answer: “humility”…. If a Judeo-Christian evangelical Zionist pharisaically proclaims ten times daily that “Jesus is his god and savior” he not Christian at all compared with my humble neighbor who goes out of his way to help anyone who suffers and needs his love and assistance…
Simply put you can not be a Christian and reject Christ. This professor not only rejects Christ but mocks Christianity. Nick you present yourself as a protector of Orthodox Christianity yet you fail to protect it from one who mocks the Savior.
First and foremost I promote freedom of speech and I reject hypocrisy. There is no “Savior” without these. The Savior himself chastised the hypocrites and the Pharisees… Do you realize that the barbarian “Christian” Byzantine Emperors Theodosius and Justinian – yes the one who married the whore – destroyed the Academy of Athens? And that these last Philosophers of Athens were saved along with their remaining books by the Persian Emperor Hosroe? And that their wisdom passed on in the following centuries to the “Muslim” and “faithless” Arabs who saved it and advanced it? Where do you think “algebra” came from? From the Arabs!! It’s an Arabic word… The Renaissance came to life when the Ancient Greek texts – and especially Aristotle – were translated to Latin from the Arabic after having been saved by the Persians from barbarian Christians!!… The same barbarian Christians who now proclaim their faith to “the Lord and Savior” at the same time as they support the Genocide of the Palestinians by the Israeli Zionists!! Please find me a statement of our “leaders” Bartholomew or Elpidoktonos or the rest to condemn the crimes against humanity in Gaza… The Pope did and said more than them…
Greeks were not forced to become Christians and they did not become Christians in the fourth century. The Apostle Paul brought the gospel to Greece and the Greek speaking world. As we read in the Acts of the Apostles, Paul travelled to Athens, Corinth, Thessaloniki, Cyprus (with Saint Barnabas), and Ephesus. Saint Andrew the Apostle travelled to Patras and was martyred there. Saint John the Theologian wrote the Revelation on Patmos.
Christianity was in Greek lands and converted Greeks peacefully in the first century. What is particularly ridiculous is the idea the Greeks and Constantinople would have been saved if they worshipped the false gods. How was that supposed to happen?
The Church preserved the Greek language and consciousness under the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans considered Jesus a prophet and Christians “people of the book”. The Turks were brutal but there was at least a little room for survival. Without the Christian faith, all Greeks would have been converted to Islam and would be speaking Turkish today.
The Greek language is very important in Christianity. The New Testament was written in Koine Greek. Greek is important in studying the Orthodox faith with the Greek fathers etc.
Greece is not going pagan. Orthodoxy is the faith of the Greek people and will remain so.
Absolutely… well stated…
What is this nonsense? This is Julian the Apostate, redux. Academics having to drum up controversy for attention and grant money, as usual. The political screed at the end was a dead giveaway.
I thought Hellenism and Christianity were one and indivisible. The Fathers respected the Ancients. Lots of guys in Cassocks with Greek names said this. But it wasn’t really true? Are Greeks starting to embrace the Neo-Pagan LARP?
Now some might say to me: You’re not Greek, so this conversation doesn’t concern you.
Aha, but the GOA and the Greek Churches have made “Greekness” and “Hellenism” part of the price of admission. That converts have to become “Hellenes” to be truly Orthodox. Sure, you can use English, but the orientation is towards “Hellas.” As I heard one Greek Metropolitan say in a talk some time ago: “You don’t have to be Greek to be Hellene!”
Remember kids, it’s only ethnophyletism if the Slavs do it….
Unfortunately, there actually has been an emergence of organized “neo-paganism” in Greece. Historically, many of these individuals can be traced to atheist or even communist ancestors who adopted a Marxist hatred toward Orthodoxy. I even had a classmate who was never baptized because his father got angry with the Church during WW2, when he convinced himself that “the fat priest had food in his belly while his fellow villagers were starving”…(classic Marxist rhetoric). I don’t know anything about this author, but the mere quote below reminds me of the Marxist playbook that my classmate’s father used to quote (even though he claimed to be a right-wing guy, ironically):
“…Allow the unregulated accumulation of wealth or industrial corporate power and you create mountains of toxic pollution, grave inequalities and billionaires that behave like autocrats/tyrants – hardly any different than the feudal lords of the dark ages…”
So yes, unfortunately these “neo-pagans” have emerged for various reasons, and are actively out there, and many of them are intellectuals, “educated ones” spewing terrible rhetoric about Christianity, in an effort to convince others that Hellenism is “absolutely different” from Christianity and that Christianity is a “Hebrew takeover” of Hellenism (classic and abominable racist rhetoric and delusion).
Of course, the famous Letter of St. Basil “to the Youth” has set this argument straight for almost 1700 years now, where the Church Father who was educated in “quasi-pagan institutions of learning” clearly delineated for us what is “useful” for a Christian to glean from the “pagan teachers” and “what is to be dismissed”… St. Basil did NOT outright reject all pagan teachers’ words as abomination. Anyone who ignores this delineation and adopts “generalizations” can quickly fall into traps and incorrect assertions…
Having said this, folks should be reminded that while some people attempt to idealize “Greek DNA” these days, Alexander the Great’s philosophy was one of “unification of cultures” (and DNA) via Language and Hellenism, in general…in fact he married several wives along the way of his conquests in order to “seal the deal”…(a method that 9 centuries later Mohammed adopted in the Arabian peninsula, and codified in his “new religion”). That’s a fundamental truth that obliterates any notion of “ethnophyletism” in the subsequent spread of Christianity in the “Greek world” that Alexander the Great left behind…The account of the Day of Pentecost is quite telling…(Acts 2:5). All nations were present.
And before any “smart-Alec” decides to start talking about Aramaic, they should reconsider their position after reading some modern scholarship that negates the 19th-century “poisonous” German scholar Gustaf Dalman’s theories that dominated the “scholarly books” for over 140 years…
https://www.biblicallanguagecenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/9789004263406_12-Buth-HLI-HLI.pdf
Marcos, thank you for insightful post. These neo pagans, as you call them, can not be called Christians and anyone who deny the divinity of Christ is a heretic.
The bigger question is, on ,this dialogue is who is Christ? A Jew who Proclaims to be King of The Jews along with his loyal friends except one , his 12 Jewish Apostles , whom the Jews rejected as real Messiah , only for export to the Gentiles? a new Religion a product of monotheism. Paul from Tarsus now Turkey is fortunate that Alexander the Great crossed the Dardanelles into Persia, as 19 years old teenager , who never lost a battle. As a consequence of his victories in ESTABLISHING The Hellenistic Empire which the Hellenic Language and its culture developed. This is well known, but give the good professor a break on his passion to protect
the source and knowledge of some 5,000 years of the Hellenic Civilization. The real question is now ,without the significant spirit of the Greek Language how could Paul market his preaching? how? And the follow up question is Why? to do what ? To preach Christology that The Ancient Greeks were uncivilized? to teach morality? To go to Corinth, Cyprus,
Thessaloniki , to Athens , to teach what? How to be saved from the Chosen People from the wisdom and
CEO the God of Abraham? The point is that we modern Hellenes are a Myriad Product of our heroic history written in bloodshed by invaders for thousands of years and the Romanized Jews along with Constantine The Great who accepted Christianity as the Official religion of our Topos in its transition from the BC to AD. My parents were devoted Christians who have built churches donated Icons in my area in Boeotia Greece.
I was baptized in at St. George Cathedral next to the Museum in one of the oldest cities of the world Thebes Greece . Last summer I attended lectures on Hesiod from Askri in Boetia who wrote about 3,000 years ago ,The natives were very well versed in Hellenic Traditions from their historic experiences they had no need to be indoctrinated by Jewish
Propaganda as we do not need it today from the mass media to violate world peace.
I appreciate the good professor’s wake up call in reference to our diverted valuable Hellenic
Culture , its merits to educate the world to respect its virtues. Thinkers like
Kazantzakis and Nietzsche struggled with the issue of benevolent theocracy by its inducement of “The Chosen People ” in Christianity,
Judo/Muslims as a product from the Middle East better known as the
Holy Land!
Nevertheless, I know you like to throw around the term heretic. If one denies the divinity of Christ that person is a heretic. “Who is a liar? It is who ever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist.”1 John 2:22. Not only is the professor an atheist but he bears the spirit of the antichrist. Those who think like him are also antichrists. Hellenes need to understand that in spite of their many contributions to civilization, they still need/needed the salvation and new life offered in Christ.
JK – replace the professor’s name with Kazantzakis and go back (or go to google) and revisit the debate… Also, please remember that our name is Helleniscope – not “Orthodoxcscope”. No matter how you want to approach the issue, 2000 years later there is a ton of academic work to prove to all that without Ancient Greek philosophy and especially the Stoics there would be no Christianity… The divine nature of Jesus is not what made Saint Paul stand up and declare “There is no Jew or Gentile, man or woman, etc. Saint Paul in this phrase caught the essence of Christianity but in order to reach this essence there had been a few hundred years of Greek philosophy and practice. Hellenic CLASSICAL PHILOSOPHY comes first. Then after Jesus and his sacrifice and the Apostles it merges with Christianity. Byzantine / Eastern Orthodoxy preserved in the best way possible this merge – WHICH IS PRIMARILY HELLENISTIC/HELLENIC. Enough said – I will post more historical texts in the near future. The discussion is over for now.
Full circle back to the point about about St. Basil’s letter to the Youth…he delineated between the “good” and the “bad” teachings…certainly when a society “thinks” and “communicates” in a certain way, it is unavoidable that traces of the “societal style” of rhetoric become evident when preaching. St. Basil didn’t reject this style. Furthermore, that’s why “PhD’s” spend a lot of effort dissecting the Epistles and Ancient Church Father’s writings for parallelisms to the ancient philosophers, despite the fact that on a theological foundation paganism as a religion is definitely not equivalent or parallel to Christianity in any remote way…it is only natural for the rhetorical style of delivery between pagan philosophers and Ancient Church Fathers may exhibit similarities, not necessarily the teachings themselves…
In conclusion, (to smooth out any misunderstandings in this forum) there is no shame in admiring the high intellectual level of “rhetorical style” that the ancient Hellenistic pagan Philosophers achieved, and this admiration should not in turn diminish or even compete with the (totally separate) unquestionable Treasure of of the God-inspired words of the Apostles and Church Fathers who may have used similar “styles of rhetoric and delivery” to adapt to the “cognitive receptacle structure” of the people and intellectuals of the era…
In the end, “it’s all in the delivery”, they say…
Nick,
Well said Helleniscope is not Orthodoxscope, but is under its Umbrella from the dynamic historical source of Hellenism. Most of the Hellenes, who have become broader thinkers in their Hellenic Identity have mixed feelings of glorifying to kneel to a Jewish God, and to pray for eternal salvation, a custom from cultures from the Levant. Today, upon accepting and developing the NT,
“Evanggelio” that is announced every Sunday in Greek Orthodox Churches,
the priest simultaneously makes references to the “Old Evanggelio” OT,
or “Palia Diathiki” to immortalize Isaac, Moses, from the God of Abraham and so on.. to remind us Greek Orthodox Christians that ‘Christ is King of The Jews’!
Christ is the King of all who believe in Him. Those who don’t believe in Him are not Christians-very simple.
Please JK repeat your proclamation here: “Jesus is my Lord and Savior” so you can officially be classified along with the Evangelical Judeo-Christians…
Wow. This explains the patronizing, subtle (in some cases not subtle) contempt towards Slavs and us “Frankish” Converts. Us Xenoi are incapable of understanding such “nuances” and the “glories of Hellenism.” We corrupt Orthodoxy with our barbarian (and fanatical) ways, apparently.
Fortunately, many Greeks reject this garbage and are actually Christians.
This makes the condemnation of the Moscow Patriarchate all the more galling and hypocritical.
Perhaps I was wrong about “Russia as Katechon.” I find “The Greek World” more distasteful than the Russian one.
You need to read a bit more history of philosophy: without the “Greek World” Christianity would not have come to life. Or it would be one more Judaic sect… Thankfully, some have devoted their lives to this… For one more time I call this audience to read carefully:
https://www.helleniscope.com/2025/11/12/christianity-and-hellenism-in-their-encounter-by-fr-georgios-metallinos/
I’m not talking about philosophy.
I’m using the term “Greek World” in the same sense that Greek Russophobes use the term “Russian World” (I’ve come to realize that the anti-Russian polemics are pure projection). That is where the conflict really comes from: We see “Hellenism” as a heritage, an inheritance. Something from the past that remains a foundational pillar, but we are not bound by it. Greeks see it as a continuing civilizational concept that keeps Orthodoxy centered on the Greek sphere. That is why nonsense statements like the Ecumenical Patriarchate is the center of Orthodoxy can be said with a straight face, because he’s the ethnarch of the Greeks (traditionally). To be Orthodox means to be “Hellene.” The hatred of Russia comes from the fact that they rejected this conception of “Hellenism” and encouraged the other non-Greek Orthodox in their rejection of it as well.
Heritage or living Civilization? That’s the real question. I’m thoroughly of the opinion that it is the former. That this article is even being published and taken seriously in the Greek world confirms the long suspicion that “Hellenism” is more important than Christianity itself.
This will be my last post on the website, as this is a Greek (with a capital G, 500 font) publication and I’m not Greek. I’m grateful for the conversation I’ve had with Orthodox Christians who are Greek (note how I ordered that), and continue to pray with them and love them.
A Blessed Lent to all.