EDITOR’S NOTE (Nick Stamatakis). See, we told you so! Helleniscope was right once again! And we were primarily verified not by strictly conservative media but by none other than Reuters and the NY Times!  Please listen to the excellent below and read the reports on undecided voters by Reuters and the NY Times…. The reality is that Kamala appeared empty and “snooty” and, above all, offered no real plans and no solutions! This is what matters the most, ideas and solutions for the undecided voters – and Kamala appeared empty of both.  She certainly did not convince the majority of the undecided voters.

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source – reuters.com

Some undecided voters not convinced by Harris after debate with Trump

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Democratic presidential nominee, U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris speaks during the presidential debate hosted by ABC with Republican presidential nominee, former U.S. President Donald Trump, in Philadelphia, September 10, 2024. REUTERS/Brian Snyder Purchase Licensing Rights, opens new tab
Sept 11 (Reuters) – Kamala Harris was widely seen as dominating Tuesday’s presidential debate against Republican former president Donald Trump, but a group of undecided voters remained unconvinced that the Democratic vice president was the better candidate.
Reuters interviewed 10 people who were still unsure how they were going to vote in the Nov. 5 election before they watched the debate. Six said afterward they would now either vote for Trump or were leaning toward backing him. Three said they would now back Harris and one was still unsure how he would vote.
Harris and Trump are in a tight race and the election will likely be decided by just tens of thousands of votes in a handful of battleground states, many of whom are swing voters like the undecided voters who spoke to Reuters.
Although the sample size was small, the responses suggested Harris might need to provide more detailed policy proposals to win over voters who have yet to make up their minds.
Five said they found Harris vague during the more than 90-minute debate on how she would improve the U.S. economy and deal with the high cost of living, a top concern for voters.
The encounter was particularly important for Harris, with a weekend New York Times/Siena College opinion poll showing that more than a quarter of likely voters feel they do not know enough about her, in contrast to the well-known Trump.
The Trump converts said they trusted him more on the economy, even though all said they did not like him as a person. They said their personal financial situation had been better when he was president between 2017-2021. Some singled out his proposal to tax foreign imports, although economists say that is likely to raise prices.
Four of those six also said Harris did not convince them she would pursue different economic policies than Democratic President Joe Biden, a Democrat they largely blame for the high cost of living.
“I still don’t know what she is for,” said Mark Kadish, 61, an entrepreneur in Florida. “There was no real meat and bones for her plans.”
Four of the voters are women and six are men; eight are white and two are Black. All have voted for both Democratic and Republican candidates in the past.
Harris did mention some policy specifics, including her plan to offer tax benefits to families and small businesses. But she focused much of the debate on attacking Trump rather than laying out detailed policies.
Robert Wheeler, 48, a security firm executive in Nevada, was leaning toward Harris before the debate. He now says if the election were held tomorrow he would vote for Trump, largely because he thought Harris didn’t provide clarity on her policies.
“I felt like the whole debate was Kamala Harris telling me why not to vote for Donald Trump instead of why she’s the right candidate,” Wheeler said.
But Meredith Marshall, who is self-employed and lives in Los Angeles, said she was now for Harris. She said she had hoped to hear more about the economy from the vice president, but still liked her plan to help small business owners.

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Reporting by Tim Reid and Helen Coster, Editing by Ross Colvin and Howard Goller

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source – nytimes.com

Pundits Said Harris Won the Debate. Undecided Voters Weren’t So Sure.

Voters said the vice president talked about a sweeping vision to fix the country’s most stubborn problems. But they wanted the fine print.

Vice President Kamala Harris stands with people near a ramp to a plane. It is dark outside.
Vice President Kamala Harris greeting campaign staff in Philadelphia after the debate on Tuesday night.Credit…Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times

By Jeremy W. PetersJack Healy and Campbell Robertson

The reporters interviewed voters in five states and asked them whether the debate changed their views on the presidential race.

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For weeks, undecided voters have been asking for more substance.

So it was perhaps no accident that Vice President Kamala Harris’s first words during the presidential debate on Tuesday were, “I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan.”

Some Americans might need more convincing.

Bob and Sharon Reed, both 77-year-old retired teachers who live on a farm in central Pennsylvania, had high hopes for the debate between Ms. Harris and former President Donald Trump. They thought that they would come away with a candidate to support in November.

But, Ms. Reed said, “It was all disappointing.”

The couple ended the night wondering how the costly programs each candidate supported — Mr. Trump’s tariffs and Ms. Harris’s aid to young families and small businesses — would help a couple like them, living on a fixed income that has not kept pace with inflation. They said they didn’t hear detailed answers on immigration or foreign policy, either.

Immediate reaction from political analysts favored Ms. Harris, whose attacks appeared to rattle Mr. Trump. She goaded him over the various criminal and civil charges against him. She said his former aides considered him “a disgrace” and that world leaders laugh at him. At one point, she asked whether he might be “confused” — a stinging line given Mr. Trump’s relentless mocking of President Biden’s mental acuity. And she questioned his emotional stability by saying he was not capable of processing his loss in 2020.

But not all voters, especially those undecided few who could sway the election, were effusive about the vice president’s performance.

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But they also said she did not seem much different from Mr. Biden, and they wanted change.

And most of all, what they wanted to hear — and didn’t — was the fine print.

Voters said they were glad she has a tax and economic plan. But they want to know how it will become law when Washington is so polarized. They know she wants to give assistance to first-time home buyers, but doubted that it was realistic.

“She tried a couple times to say, ‘I want to do this and I want to do that,’ and that’s nice promises,” Ms. Reed said. “I hope she can get them through Congress.”

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Sharon Reed sits in a rocking chair on a porch, and Bob Reed stands next to her. A large American flag is draped next to them.
Sharon and Bob Reed in Danville, Pa., last month. After watching the debate on Tuesday, Ms. Reed said, “It was all disappointing.”Credit…Hannah Beier for The New York Times

Going into the debate, Ms. Harris faced a challenge that Mr. Trump did not: Telling the country what they should expect from her presidency. With two-minute limits on the answers the candidates could give, that was always going to be difficult.

 

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3 COMMENTS

  1. Nick
    Just two days ago, you said that the NYT is “lying”. Please, explain why the article about undecided voters is considered as valid by you?

    • Just listen to the video to explain the experiment some in the NY Times did by making some to listen to Trump and Kamala without revealing their identity. Keep in mind what I, first of all, said on January 1st: The pro-israel lobby will turn to support Trump. This is what we are now seeing: even the NY Times sees the reality that if Trump is not elected Israel will be lost.

      • I’ve read the article yesterday. It sounds valid to me. Of course, its a small sample, but, its indicative, that swing voters are few. Everyone is pretty much settled on his or her choice by now. The debate, no matter who we think “won” it, didn’t register much in undecided minds.

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