PHOTO: On March 9 of this year the new Turkish Ambassador to the US Mr.Murat Mercan visited Pat.Bartholomew at Phanar… Please read carefully what Helleniscope wrote then and evaluate for yourselves…

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TRANSLATION IN GREEK FOLLOWS

By Nick Stamatakis

Since the events of last week, a number of sources in the US and in Greece are attempting in vain to “rescue” Patriarch Bartholomew by suggesting that he DID NOT KNOW about the archbishop’s participation in the grand opening of the “Turkish House” in NYC (You can read below one sample in English and Greek).  The Archbishop was very clear in his statements after the event that he was in full coordination with the Patriarchate and that his participation was approved. There is no reason not to believe the Archbishop. Here is why:

  1. All Archbishops and Metropolitans of the Patriarchate are known to be – and act as – “soldiers” of the Patriarch – and they proudly declare so on every occasion!!
  2. Pat. Bartholomew is a known “micro-manager” who insists on being informed on every detail (among other things, his English is excellent and he reads “Helleniscope” regularly to learn the truth about what is going on in America and elsewhere!!)
  3. Take a look at our main photo and follow the link to our post in early March of this year to assess for yourselves how closely the Turkish Foreign Ministry is connected with the Patriarch.  Here is the official statement: The Ecumenical Patriarchate was visited on Tuesday, March 9, 2021, by the newly appointed Ambassador of the Turkish Republic to the USA, Ex. Mr. Hasan Murat Mercan. His Excellency Mr. Mercan, who was accompanied by Honorable Mr. Ender Saritekin, Head of the Sub-Directorate for America, of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Turkey, was received by His All Holiness the Ecumenical Patriarch Mr. Bartholomew, and had the opportunity to discuss extensively issues concerning the Ecumenical Patriarchate and its ministry at home, but also around the world, as well as the presence of Orthodoxy in the United States and the multidimensional work of the Holy Archdiocese of America”… Do I need to remind you that a few years ago, when he was again visiting the US, Patriarch Bartholomew stayed for a whole week at the Turkish Ambassador’s house in DC? Was it that GOARCH did not have the money to put him up at the best hotel? P-lease…
  4. Let me remind everyone here that not only AB Elpidoktonos served in the Turkish Armed Forces but Pat. Bartholomew also did. They both served in intelligence units.
  5. Is someone trying to suggest that Pat. Bartholomew has not expressed his support to Erdogan in myriad ways? Did we forget his wishes for the “success” of the Turkish murderous military operations in Syria? And his endless wishes on every occasion? Most recently he even sent a substantial amount of money (YES, OUR MONEY) to support the Turkish effort against covid-19, sources tell us- and we are hoping they are wrong… But what are the chances… Will we EVER have accountability by a “Turkish Religious Institution”? One does not know whether he should laugh or cry with our ridiculous situation in the Church of America…

After all this, the issue is not anymore whether Pat. Bartholomew will visit America or not.  The main issue will be how fast can he deliver a charter that would ESTABLISH THE FREEDOM OF OUR CHURCH FROM TURKISH RULE… So sad to utter these words at the 200th anniversary of the Greek Revolution!!! So sad…

But it is also a call for all of us to stand up and fight!!  The time is NOW!! Never again under Turkish rule!…

September 29, 2021, n.stamatakis@aol.com   www.helleniscope.com

TRANSLATION IN GREEK FOLLOWS – THE POST FROM NEWSBREAK.GR AT THE END…

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Γνώριζε ο Πατ.Βαρθολομαίος;  Είπε ψέματα ο Αρχιεπίσκοπος; Οχι, είπε την αλήθεια…

Του Νίκου Σταματάκη 

Από την περασμένη εβδομάδα αρκετοί στην Αμερική και στην Ελλάδα προσπαθούν μάταια να «σώσουν» τον Πατριάρχη Βαρθολομαίο υποδηλώνοντας ότι ΔΕΝ ΓΝΩΡΙΖΕ για τη συμμετοχή του Βαρθολομαίου στα εγκαίνια του «Τουρκικού Σπιτιού» στη Νέα Υόρκη (Μπορείτε να διαβάσετε παρακάτω ένα δείγμα αυτής της θέσης στα αγγλικά και τα ελληνικά). Ο Αρχιεπίσκοπος ήταν πολύ σαφής στις δηλώσεις του μετά την εκδήλωση ότι ήταν σε πλήρη συντονισμό με το Πατριαρχείο και ότι η συμμετοχή του εγκρίθηκε. Δεν υπάρχει λόγος να μην πιστέψουμε τον Αρχιεπίσκοπο. Να γιατί:

  1. Ολοι οι Αρχιεπίσκοποι και Μητροπολίτες του Πατριαρχείου είναι γνωστό ότι λειτουργούν ως «στρατιώτες» του Πατριάρχη και το δηλώνουν με υπερηφάνεια σε κάθε περίσταση!!
  2. Ο Βαρθολομαίος είναι γνωστός «μικροδιαχειριστής» που επιμένει να ενημερώνεται για κάθε λεπτομέρεια (μεταξύ άλλων τα αγγλικά του είναι εξαιρετικά και διαβάζει τακτικά το «Helleniscope» για να μάθει την αλήθεια για το τι συμβαίνει στην Αμερική και αλλού!!)
  3. Ρίξτε μια ματιά στην κύρια φωτογραφία μας και ακολουθήστε τον σύνδεσμο προς την ανάρτησή μας στις αρχές Μαρτίου του τρέχοντος έτους για να εκτιμήσετε μόνοι σας πόσο στενά συνδέεται το τουρκικό Υπουργείο Εξωτερικών με τον Πατριάρχη. Χρειάζεται να σας υπενθυμίσω ότι πριν από μερικά χρόνια, όταν επισκέφτηκε ξανά τις ΗΠΑ, ο Πατριάρχης Βαρθολομαίος έμεινε μια ολόκληρη εβδομάδα στο σπίτι του τούρκου πρέσβη στην Ουάσιγκτον; Αραγε η Αρχιεπισκοπή δεν είχε χρήματα για να τον βάλει στο καλύτερο ξενοδοχείο;
  4. Επιτρέψτε μου να υπενθυμίσω σε όλους εδώ ότι όχι μόνο ο ΑΒ Ελπιδoκτόνος υπηρέτησε στις τουρκικές ένοπλες δυνάμεις αλλά το ίδιο έκανε και ο Πατ.Βαρθολομαίος. Και οι δύο υπηρέτησαν σε μονάδες πληροφοριών.
  5. Προσπαθεί κάποιος να μας πει ότι ο Πατ. Ο Βαρθολομαίος δεν έχει εκφράσει την υποστήριξή του στον Ερντογάν με μυριάδες τρόπους; Ξεχάσαμε τις ευχές του για την «επιτυχία» των τουρκικών δολοφονικών επιχειρήσεων στη Συρία; Και τις ατελείωτες ευχές του σε κάθε περίσταση; Πιο πρόσφατα έστειλε μάλιστα ένα σημαντικό χρηματικό ποσό (ΝΑΙ, ΤΑ ΧΡΗΜΑΤΑ ΜΑΣ) για να υποστηρίξει την τουρκική προσπάθεια κατά του Covid-19, μας λένε πηγές- και ελπίζουμε να κάνουν λάθος … Αλλά ποιες είναι οι πιθανότητες … Να περιμένουμε ποτέ οικονομικό ή άλλο απολογισμό από ένα “Τουρκικό Θρησκευτικό ίδρυμα”; Δεν ξέρει κανείς αν πρέπει να γελάσει ή να κλάψει με τη γελοία μας κατάσταση στην Εκκλησία της Αμερικής…

Μετά από όλα αυτά, το ζήτημα δεν είναι πια αν ο Πατ. Βαρθολομαίος θα επισκεφθεί την Αμερική ή όχι. Το κύριο ζήτημα θα είναι πόσο γρήγορα μπορεί να παραδώσει ένα νέο καταστατικό χάρτη που θα ΘΕΣΠΙΖΕΙ ΤΗΝ ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΙΑ ΤΗΣ ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑΣ ΜΑΣ ΑΠΟ ΤΗΝ ΤΟΥΡΚΙΚΗ ΚΥΡΙΑΡΧΙΑ… Οδυνηρό να προφέρω αυτά τα λόγια στην 200ή επέτειο της Ελληνικής Επανάστασης!!! Ιδιαίτερα οδυνηρό …

Είναι όμως και ένα κάλεσμα σε όλους μας να σηκωθούμε και να πολεμήσουμε !! Η ώρα είναι τώρα!! Ποτέ ξανά υπό τουρκική κυριαρχία! …

September 29, 2021, n.stamatakis@aol.com   www.helleniscope.com

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SOURCE: NEWSBREAK.GR Anonymous column “Mr.Maximos”

Είπε ψέμματα ο Ελπιδοφόρος!

Πούλησε την ψυχή του στον Ερντογάν για έναν και μόνο λόγο

Έψαξα πάρα πολύ το θέμα Ελπιδοφόρου και τα όσα θλιβερά διαδραματίστηκαν στη Νέα Υόρκη, προκειμένου να διαπιστώσω τι πραγματικα συνέβη. Διότι όλο το παρασκήνιο αλλά και το προσκήνιο αποτελούν μία εξαιρετικά επικίνδυνη εξέλιξη όταν τα πράγματα στα ελληνοτουρκικά είναι σε αυτή την ολισθηρή ατραπό.

Και ο μεγαλύτερος κίνδυνος έγκειται στην ίδια την «εμπλοκή» του Οικουμενικού Πατριαρχείου Κωνσταντινουπόλεως. Διότι ο αρχιεπίσκοπος Αμερικής Ελπιδοφόρος, υποστήριξε πως ο Πατριάρχης ήταν γνώστης των ενεργειών του και τις απόφασης του να παρευρεθεί δίπλα στον Ερντογάν κατά τα εγκαίνια του «κέντρου τουρκικής προπαγάνδας» στην Νέα Υόρκη.

Η αλήθεια λοιπόν είναι ότι ο Πατριάρχης δεν γνώριζε το παραμικρό για την πρόθεση αυτή του Ελπιδοφόρου! Παρά τα όσα υποστηρίζει ο αρχιεπίσκοπος Αμερικής, ο Βαρθολομαίος δεν είχε ιδέα για το τι πρόκειται να κάνει, ούτε φυσικά είχε δώσει την ευλογία του! Άρα ο Ελπιδοφόρος είπε ένα μεγάλο ψέμα στην ελληνική κυβέρνηση.

Το δεύτερο σοβαρό σημείο στην συμπεριφορά του αρχιεπισκόπου Αμερικής, είναι η συνεννόηση που είχε με την Ελλάδα, την κυβέρνηση της Ελλάδας δηλαδή, πριν προβεί σε αυτή την προκλητική και απαράδεκτη ενέργεια. Η αλήθεια λοιπόν είναι ότι ο Ελπιδοφόρος είχε ενημερωθεί από επίσημα ελληνικά χείλη για την παρουσία του κατοχικού εισβολέα Τατάρ στην συγκεκριμένη εκδήλωση! Είχε επίσης προειδοποιηθεί ότι ο Τατάρ Θα επεδίωκε να φωτογραφηθεί μαζί του, ακριβώς για να λάβει μία έμμεση «νομιμοποίηση».

Ο αρχιεπίσκοπος Ελπιδοφόρος λοιπόν αγνόησε παντελώς αυτή την ελληνική προειδοποίηση και προσήλθε κανονικά στην τελετή της ντροπής. Διαμηνύοντας το μάλιστα στους συνομιλητές του – αξιωματούχους του ελληνικού κράτους!

Το πλέον θλιβερό όλων όμως είναι το κίνητρο του Ελπιδοφόρου. Γιατί ένας Έλληνας αρχιεπίσκοπος πουλάει την ψυχή του στον Ερντογάν και την Τουρκία;

Εδώ είναι το πλέον σκοτεινό σημείο. Ο αρχιεπίσκοπος Ελπιδοφόρος εποφθαλμιά την θέση του Οικουμενικού Πατριάρχη. Γνωρίζει όμως ότι ο Οικουμενικός Πατριάρχης Βαρθολομαίος τον έχει ήδη «προγράψει» και διαγράψει από την τελική επιλογή. Οι πληροφορίες μου θέλουν τον Χαλκηδόνος Εμμανουήλ, ως διάδοχό στον θρόνο του Οικουμενικού Πατριαρχείου.

Αυτό φυσικά το γνωρίζει και ο Ελπιδοφόρος. Με αποτέλεσμα να διαπράττει ένα έγκλημα κατά του ελληνισμού και της Ορθοδοξίας. Ένα έγκλημα με μοναδικό κίνητρο την προσωπική του ματαιοδοξία. Διότι ο Ελπιδοφόρος πουλάει την ψυχή του στον Ερντογάν, πιστεύοντας ότι ο τελευταίος θα τον βοηθήσει να ανέλθει στον θρόνο του Οικουμενικού Πατριαρχείου, παρά τις αποφάσεις του Βαρθολομαίου.

Αυτή η στάση του υποδηλώνει ότι ο άνθρωπος αυτός είναι κίνδυνος για την ενότητα των Ελλήνων και φυσικά της ομογένειας.

Ο πρωθυπουργός Κυριάκος Μητσοτάκης μάλιστα δεν είχε καμία πρόθεση να συναντηθεί μαζί του, διότι στενή τους συνεργάτες του είχαν μεταφέρει τα ανωτέρω. Δέχτηκε εντέλει να συναντηθεί έπειτα από πίεση παραγόντων της ομογένειας, οι οποίοι του τόνισαν ότι η συνάντηση δεν θα ήταν με τον ίδιο, αλλά με τον θεσμό του Αρχιεπισκόπου της Αμερικής. Ενός θεσμού ακρογωνιαίο λίθο για την ενότητα και συνοχή της ομογένειας. Αυτός είναι και ο λόγος που τελικά ο Κυριάκος Μητσοτάκης συναντήθηκε μαζί του.

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SOURCE: NEWSBREAK.GR Anonymous column “Mr.Maximos”

Elpidophoros Lied!

He sold his soul to Erdogan for one reason only

I searched a lot for the issue of Elpidophoros and what sadly took place in New York, in order to find out what really happened. Because the whole background and the foreground point to an extremely dangerous development when things in Greek-Turkish relations are on this slippery path.

And the greatest danger lies in the very “involvement” of the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople. Because the Archbishop of America, Elpidophoros, claimed that the Patriarch was aware of his actions and his decision to attend next to Erdogan during the inauguration of the “Turkish propaganda center” in New York.

So the truth is that the Patriarch did not know the slightest thing about this intention of Elpidophoros! Despite what the Archbishop of America claims, Bartholomew had no idea what he was going to do, nor, of course, did he give his blessing! So Elpidoforos told a big lie to the Greek government.

The second serious point in the behavior of the Archbishop of America is the consultation he had with Greece, that is, with the government of Greece, before carrying out this provocative and unacceptable action. So the truth is that Elpidoforos was informed by official Greek lips about the presence of the Cyprus occupying leader Mr. Tatar in this event! He had also been warned that Tatar would seek to be photographed with him, precisely to obtain an indirect “legitimacy”.

Archbishop Elpidoforos therefore completely ignored this Greek warning and normally attended the shameful ceremony. In fact, passing it on to his interlocutors – officials of the Greek state!

Most sad of all, however, is the motivation of Elpidoforos. Why is a Greek archbishop selling his soul to Erdogan and Turkey?

Here is the darkest point. Archbishop Elpidoforos is eyeing the position of Ecumenical Patriarch. However, he knows that the Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew has already “eliminated” him and deleted him from the final selection. My information wants Emmanuel of Chalcedon, as successor to the throne of the Ecumenical Patriarchate.

Of course, Elpidophoros also knows this. As a result, he commits a crime against Hellenism and Orthodoxy. A crime solely motivated by his personal vanity. Because Elpidophoros sells his soul to Erdogan, believing that the latter will help him ascend to the throne of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, despite the decisions of Bartholomew.

This attitude of his suggests that this man is a danger to the unity of the Greeks and of course of the Greek community.

In fact, Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis had no intention of meeting with him, because his close associates had conveyed the above. He finally agreed to meet after pressure from members of the Greek community, who stressed that the meeting would not be with him, but with the institution of the Archbishop of America. The cornerstone of an institution for the unity and cohesion of the Greek community. This is the reason why Kyriakos Mitsotakis finally met with him.

23 COMMENTS

  1. By Dr. George Demacopoulos professor at Fordham University and Archon of the Ecumenical Patriarchate

    •Archbishop Elpidophoros has been severely criticized in some circles because he attended an event in NYC hosted by Turkish President Erdogan. A short thread on why I think this criticism is misplaced and overdone.
    •Specifically, the event was the grand opening of the Türkevi house, the new 37-story diplomatic headquarters of the Turkish government in NYC. The secretary general of the #UnitedNations also attended the event.
    •As a reminder, the Archbishop was raised in Turkey and is a Turkish citizen, arguably the most prominent Turkish citizen living the United States.
    •And, to be clear, I am fully aware of the danger Erdogan’s neo-nationalist, neo-Islamist trajectory poses for Christian minorities inside Turkey as well as other nations neighboring Turkey (Armenia, Cyprus, Greece, Syria). I’ve written about this many times.
    •But (1) we need to understand that the Archbishop’s life experience is quite different from those of us who have lived our entire lives in the comfortable confines of the US. His experience of living as a Hellene is also quite different from those who live in Greece or Cyprus.
    •Whereas most are all too quick to pontificate about the plight of Christian minorities in the Middle East, he has actually lived it in a way that most of his critics have not.
    •(2) I believe that the lived reality for Hellenes and other Christians in Turkey requires a level of engagement with the Turkish government (however unjust and duplicitous that govt might be) that those of us on the outside do not fully appreciate.
    •A policy of no engagement or unremittent critique will not do anything to reopen Halki, protect religious minorities, maintain properties, correct the Hagia Sophia situation, secure the election of future bishops, obtain visas for monks to staff holy sites, etc.
    •(3) I suspect that some critics can understand the reality of the previous point, but they subordinate those concerns for broader political interests in Greece or Cyprus in the region. They expect the Archbishop to do the same.
    •To my mind, such weighing of priorities is appropriate for groups or lobbying interests predicated on cultural identity/preservation, but it is not appropriate for a bishop whose priorities, by definition, are distinct from (even if partially overlapping with) the cultural.
    •The Archbishop’s primary responsibilities are the nurturing of souls under his care and the spreading of the Gospel to those he encounters.
    •His theological vision is (rightly) one that pursues these goals w/ an open mind & open heart. It demands engagement w/ those we fear, those we do not trust, those who have hurt us, those who are a threat. It’s not the obvious political path, but it is the path of the Gospel.

    • The space is not enough here to answer Demacopoulos’s myriad misconceptions – don’t forget that he is a “woke” liberal academic… But here is a couple of points:
      Why are we supposed to understand Elpidoktonos’s “life experience? WHY? WHY? WHY? He is supposed to know the Greek-American faithful’s life experience if he is to be their spiritual shepherd… Clearly, he does NOT. Not only he does not understand his flock but he brought with him from Greece and Turkey a bunch of mediocrities that he houses in the headquarters. Instead of opening up to the greek-American community, he surrounds himself with lots of new immigrants who are not simply less than mediocre in theology and everything else they practice BUT DO NOT UNDERSTAND AMERICA – PERIOD.
      Would the Jewish Americans accept a Rabbi and a religious authority subject to analogous situations in Tehran? Would the Armenians do the same? Not only they would not but it was the Jewish and Armenian Americans who protested harder than us about Elpidoktonos’s “missteps”…
      Demacopoulos needs to serve the truth instead of serving Elpidoktonos by putting forward several fallacies… He ends up by pushing the idea that Elpidoktonos is a “spiritual” leader… How laughable!! This is the only thing he is not…

    • Elpidophoros’s theological vision is terrible. He marched with communist LGBT terrorists. He led a service in a Protestant building flying the LGBT flag. He stated that the Patriarch of Istanbul is “first without equals” in the Orthodox Church. Elpidophoros and Bartholomew have been a train wreck to Orthodoxy. Now Elpidophoros can add bowing to Erdogan the murderer to his resume. Please spare us the “he does this in order to get Halki opened, Agia Sophia returned to a church, ….” line of reasoning. A kid on the street knows when he’s being played and has more sense than this. The sooner this whole group of frauds are gone the better. Lord have mercy on us all.

    • I will not deal with all points raised by Dr Demacopoulos as “talk is cheap” (τα πολλά λόγια είναι φτώχια), but I will only deal with one point – which to my opinion is the most important that Mr Demacopoulos raised:”As a reminder, the Archbishop was raised in Turkey and is a Turkish citizen, arguably the most prominent Turkish citizen living the United States.”
      My question to Dr Demacopoulos: Is he there to serve turkish interests or serve the Orthodox church as well as support the Orthodox community? His citizenship has nothing to with his betrayal. One more point, what diference does it make if the UN SG attended the turkish ceremony, as Mr Demacopoulos points out. That has absolutely nothing to do with the current issue and Elpidophoros’ behaviour.

    • If he’s the most prominent Turkish citizen living in the US, then he has no business being Archbishop of AMERICA. Plain and simply, he is by definition conflicted and also represents foreign governments- under the yoke of Turkey and the tribal influence of Greece. All of which leaves the American Church as odd man out ( except for being the hoodwinked bill payer).

      We are a tribe that is finished.

      A fake church.

  2. Αν δεν ήταν το διαδίκτυο ο κόσμος και
    κυρίως η Ομογένεια της Αμερικής δεν θα
    είχε ποτέ σωστή, αληθινή ενημέρωςη και θα είχε μαύρα μεσάνυχτα. Πρωτοπόρο στην
    αληθινή ενημέρωση είναι η ιστιοσελίδα
    HELLENISCOPE και τούτο διότι δημοσιεύει
    όλες τις απόψεις , κατέχει το κομμάτι της
    έρευνας , του λόγου, της σύνταξης και το
    κυριότερο διότι είναι οικονομικά ανεξάρτητο. Σήμερα τα περισσότερα για να μην πώ όλα τα ΜΜΕ έντυπα, τηλεοπτικά και
    διαδικτυακά είναι εργαλεία εξυπηρετήσεως
    συμφερόντων μέσω της οποίας απολαμβάνουν τον ΑΡΤΟΝ ΤΟΝ ΕΠΙΟΥΣΙΟΝ
    και όχι μόνον.
    Υπάρχουν τόσα σοβαρά προβλήματα στην
    Ελληνοαμερικανική κοινότητα που για τους
    λόγους που προανέφερα δεν αγγίζει κανένας πλην του HELLENISCOPE.
    Δεν είναι η πρώτη φορά που καταγγείλαμε
    τον Πατριάρχη και τον Αρχιεπίσκοπό του για
    πολλά και διάφορα θέματα. Το ολίσθημα με
    το Τουρκικό σπίτι της Νέας Υόρκης, σχολιάσθηκε και από άλλους γιατί ήταν
    Εθνικό-Ελληνικό-Κυπριακό θέμα, όμως δεν
    ήταν το μόνο , αλλά πάρα πολλά τα οποία δεν εθίγησαν από κανένα άλλο ΜΜΕ, απεναντίας ορισμένα τα επαίνεσαν και τα
    αναβάθμισαν. Μήπως δεν είναι Εθνικό θέμα
    το ρεζιλίκι της Ομοσπονδίας Μείζονος Νέας
    Υόρκης ; είναι και παρά είναι και όμως δεν το αγγίζει κανένας άλλος όπως θα έπρεπε.
    Ορισμένα μάλιστα ΜΜΕ επεκρότεισαν τις εκλογές του ΠΕΖΟΔΡΟΜΙΟΥ…..Είναι μάλιστα μεγάλο Εθνικό θέμα διότι , Ελλαδικοί , Τούρκικοι , Αμερικανικοί και
    Ομογενειακοί κύκλοι , ο καθένας για τον δικό του λόγο , δεν επιθυμούν μια καλά
    οργανωμένη Ομογένεια που θα είναι σε θέση να διατηρήσει την Ελληνορθόδοξη
    ταυτότητα της Ομογένειας και να χρησιμοποιεί τις μάζες οποτεδήποτε χρειαστεί, υπέρ των Εθνικών μας συμφερόντων και φυσικά εκείνων της
    Ομογένειας.
    Το μεγαλύτερο έγκλημα που έχει γίνει είναι
    η αποτυχία μας να προσελκύσουμε τους
    νέους μας να μας διαδεχθούν , τους
    αγνοήσαμε παντελώς , διότι δεν τους
    εμπιστευθήκαμε ποτέ , αναθέτοντας των σοβαρούς ρόλους . Όσοι επεχείρησαν να
    συμμετέχουν και να συμβάλλουν απαγοητεύθηκαν με την συμπεριφορά μας.
    Ευρισκόμαστε σε κατάσταση εκτάκτου ανάγκης , αν δεν γίνει τώρα κάτι , οργανωμένη Ομογένεια πολύ σύντομα δεν
    θα υπάρχει και θα ακουγόμαστε από τους
    άλλους , για τα παστίτσια μας, τον μουσακά
    και τα σουβλάκια μας.

  3. There can be no better reason for the establishment of a united, autocephalous Orthodox Church in North America than this dust-up over the appearance of the Turkish-citizen Archbishop of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America at a Turkish government diplomatic facility in New York.

    Dr. Demacopoulos’s attempt to add balance and context to the situation confronting the Archbishop, who is still a Turkish citizen, while thoughtful, only underscores the need for the spiritual head of the American flock to be a U.S. Citizen. The fact that the Ecumenical Patriarch must be a Turkish citizen and has to be acceptable to the Turkish state is incomprehensible to Americans and citizens of Western Democracies whose DNA includes the separation of Church and State and the free exercise of religion.

    Now that a new charter is being discussed for the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, Patriarch Bartholomew has an opportunity to bestow upon Orthodox Christians in North America not only a great gift, but his own enduring legacy and, perhaps, the last, best hope for survival of the Patriarchate in Tur=key.

    Likewise, using the head of the Church as the representative of an ethnic minority that views itself as a “diaspora” — advocating for the political interests of Greece and Cyprus diminishes his role as a spiritual leader whose “primary responsibility [is] nurturing souls under his care and spreading the Gospel” to those seeking the truths of Orthodoxy in the territory entrusted to him.

    • Very well said… The Archbishop made an even bigger mistake when he repeatedly presented himself as the “top lobbyist” of the Greek-American community…

      • Lobbyists have to register as such under federal law, but Elpi either doesn’t know that or, if he does, doesn’t care—because he is Levantine Greco-Grifter.

    • Excuse me but ANY talk about a new GOAA charter being discussed is a waste of time and energy. The last charter was summarily dissolved by Bartholomew and we have been left without one for some time. The charter, any charter, while under Turkish rule is meaningless. It is plain to see that Bartholomew rules EVERYTHING and does whatever he wants. Please wake up folks.

  4. We are Americans of Greek’ descent— that said— does he represent our interests HERE-? ONLY OUR SPIRITUAL INTERESTS HERE? or What? Where? — the majority of us are not relocating to Greece – maybe a small percentage will…and that is fine, if they so choose to go to their beloved motherland…. half of Greece being under the Church of Greece’ jurisdiction– the other half under the Patriarchate’ jurisdiction…. certainly trips to Turkey do not factor into our travel plans….It’s a complex issue– a very complicated unsolvable issue…Byzantine intrigues will continue in that part of the world…

  5. The fact that Demacopoulos defends the action of the Archbishop, immediately tells us that it was a scandalous action. Usually, whatever George supports, is the opposite of the Orthodox phronema.

  6. Do any of you realize how Americans who converted to Greek Orthodox Christianity are viewing these revelations? I went to every Orthos, every liturgy….

    I am very grateful for Helleniscope. Little did I know what a lurid corrupt mess this archdiocese is in. Many thanks for the truth. The truth has set me free.

    • There are good humble priests in the GOAA that are true servants of Christ. The hierarchy is a mess so I focus on my local priest. I thank God for him and the good folks in our parish. I pray that Christ forgives the hierarchy for misleading us and helps them to see the errors of their ways so that they repent.

  7. That creepy Met. Emanuel of France or wherever is coming to NY should make everybody throw up & never give a dime to GOA.
    What a disgrace!
    This monumental sleaze-bag Emanuel was caught throwing gay sex orgies inside Fanar & still not Defrocked?!
    ANAXIOS

  8. You are absolutely correct, Mr. Samouris. There are good and humble priests of the GOAA who are suffering under the oppression of many of the EP Hierarchs. We need to help and support them as much as we can.

    Also, the monastics and clergy of the Monasteries of Geronda Ephraim are shining lights in a sea of darkness.

    • You are 100% correct Mikhail. I thank God for the humble priests and monks that we have here in the US where they are desperately needed.

  9. Here here! Yes indeed, outside dirty swamp of GOA clergy who should be Defrocked we mustn’t forget the innocent shining lights of Orthodoxy,
    both monastic and married priests doing best they can and need our support.

    Thank God we have them.

    • Don’t get all sappy about monasteries. Many of them are cesspools for sure. Trust very very few, and only after long periods of building bridges and trust.

  10. I am tired of hearing about how ‘conciliar’ the Archbishop and Patriarch are. They only seem to be conciliar to people who they want things from which seems to be people outside of Orthodoxy.

    Why would the Patriarch not ‘engage’ (see or speak) with the faithful who stood outside of where he was staying in the Ukraine and wanted to discuss with him the dismal state of their church which has been exacerbated because of his interference?

    Why does the Archbishop block followers on Twitter, some of whom are only asking questions of policies and statements?

    “A policy of no engagement or unremittent critique” will not do anything to reopen the lines of communication with our brothers and sisters in Christ in the Russian Orthodox Church and the TRUE Orthodox Church in the Ukraine, nor the thousands of faithful Orthodox in America who attempt to discuss the issues on social media. There is a reason why there are no comment sections on many of their online forums.

    Please – enough is enough. They are not interested in continuing the traditions of the true faith, theirs is a different agenda. This is painfully obvious to anyone who has eyes to see and has read anything about Revelations or the modern day saints’ prophecies.

    They will do what they are being called to do by who they are being called to do it.

    The question for the rest of us to ask ourselves, particularly the archons, etc – to which master are YOU faithful – Christ or the antichrist?

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