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Karloutsos’ Circles: “Do Not Protest Against Pat.Bartholomew!!”

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A huge fight is in full swing at GOARCH between the Archbishop and Karloutsos.  The fight started when the Patriarchal visit was decided upon the insistence of Elpidophoros, while Karloutsos preferred its postponement to next summer.  Elpidophoros demanded that at the end of the Patriarch’s visit, Karloutsos retire for good… Suddenly, Rasputin Karloutsos discovered his national roots and along with his son Mike (aka “Fredo”) declare left and right “they are Greek”…

By Nick Stamatakis

A very strange opinion piece was posted a few days ago at TNH by Theodoros Kalmoukos, a known mouthpiece for Karloutsos (let me just say that I have not seen ONE word by either Kalmoukos or Diamataris criticizing Karloutsos during the last 40 years!)… In this piece, Kalmoukos calls the community to stop any idea of organizing demonstrations against the Patriarch! Here is what he says: “There are reports that some may organize demonstrations against the Patriarch. We are talking about elements of the Greek-American and the Cypriot Communities, which in this way want to externalize their grief and indignation for the blunder of Elpidophoros”.

I was scratching my head for a while trying to figure out what on earth was going on when I realized that the whole fight between AB Elpidophoros and Karloutsos had started because of their disagreement on the Patriarch’s visit.  Karloutsos wanted it to happen next year while AB Elpidophoros insisted on a visit now… Not only that, but he demanded the “retirement” of Rasputin Karloutsos at the end of the visit… Elpidophoros got his way but the unexpected backlash from the episode at the Turkish House inauguration in NYC changed everything (you see, the Phanariots are so arrogant that they believe we the ignorant faithful should follow them in any misguided decision they make…)

Suddenly, Karloutsos started sounding more patriotic (Greek-patriotic) than the heroes of the Greek Revolution: “I am Greek” he declared in every possible direction, meaning that he would not accept the “Turks manipulating GOARCH”… His son Mike (aka “Fredo”) made numerous posts on Twitter honoring “the great Iakovos”… “We, the faithful of GOARCH would be better served if our current Archbishop would start sounding (let alone acting) like the great Archbishop Iakovos…” Suddenly, the “Karloutsos duo” suffered memory loss, conveniently forgetting that it was the father Karloutsos who backstabbed AB Iakovos and put an end to his prospects of becoming either a Patriarch or establishing an independent American Orthodox Church. (Well, for the last six years they have an extra reason to be anti-Turkish as Turkey does not allow Karloutsos entrance because of his involvement in the imam Fetullah Gulen case…The Turks accuse both Karloutsos and Gulen of being CIA agents…)

Clearly, the Karloutsos “machine” has started a new fight to remove one more archbishop – the fourth in a row after Iakovos, Spyridon, and Demetrios.  And suddenly they discovered that there are some “elements” of the community that “want to externalize their grief and indignation for the blunder of Elpidophoros”.  Well, if there were some preparations for such protests you would not expect to hear it from Kalmoukos and TNH, right? You would expect to hear it from us or other websites that are critical of Elpidophoros…  The fact that TNH and Kamloukos make a reference to protests is a clear effort to put the brakes on the Patriarch’s visit – and at the same time an effort to possibly incite demonstrations…

Let me be a bit clearer here. I have heard some proposals for protests but none was noteworthy.  They all came with second thoughts: “We do not need to organize fruitless protests. Why? Because the arrogant Phanariots and the corrupt Karloutsos GOARCH establishment are doing a fine job of killing each other at the moment and turning themselves into a laughable bunch of people…”  Karloutsos father and son are involved in big legal fights, and Mike’s RICO case is not going well at all, as I hear… Elpidophoros committed suicide by exposing to the widest possible public his ties to the Turkish “deep state”… And the Patriarch just a few days ago in Rome was honored in a big reception by the Turkish Ambassador, while in two weeks he will be welcomed to Washington DC by another big reception by the Turkish ambassador… What more could we do to prove that all three of them are destructive for Orthodoxy and Hellenism in America? They are doing a beautiful job themselves…

The latest news is that Pat.Barthlomew’s visit does not include a visit with Biden at the White House… Can you imagine who would be responsible for such a miss? Yes, you are right, Karloutsos… According to the report linked above AB Elpidophoros, in panic mode, asked the Archons to write letters to their senators to demand that such a meeting in the White House be arranged… Amazing unprofessionalism and a precursor of the Patriarch’s visit’s failure… Where to start? The half-finished St.Nicholas? The “Turkish House” debacle  (we are curious whether the Patriarch will actually visit the Turkish House..)? The empty churches? The financial disaster all over GOARCH? An endless catastrophe – boiling down to the complete lack of faith and spirituality…

AB Elpidophoros is doing his best of course to fuel the fire… His disgusting presence at the Turkish House would be excusable if it was not the latest episode in his multiple ties with the Turkish establishment.  Recently, the fact that he has brought 15-20 “aides” with Turkish passports and he houses them in the headquarters and elsewhere (i.e. the Cultural Center in Astoria) has annoyed many.  How many of them are agents of Turkish intelligence? Several rumors are circulating about their visa status – why are some visas denied? An information request we sent to the GOARCH communication director has not been answered yet…

As I have said many times – and I will never get tired of repeating – Hellenism has four legs: Orthodoxy, Navigation, Diaspora, and Cultural Heritage… The “trio” Karloutsos-Bartholomew-Elpidophoros are “co-conspirators” in causing the “Schism” in World Orthodoxy by their actions in Ukraine and they have undermined the political action of the Greek Diaspora by involving the Turkish Foreign Ministry with the Archdioceses of America, Australia, Canada, and Britain… As far as Hellenism is concerned the word “traitor” is not enough to describe their actions…

The way to protest against them is to stop giving them ANY money and to move to other Orthodox churches for regular service and for weddings and baptisms until they realize that THE CHURCH OF AMERICA HAS TO BECOME AUTONOMOUS.

October 7, 2021, n.stamatakis@aol.com   www.helleniscope.com

 

18 COMMENTS

  1. Just how long will it take the ubiquitous Prince of Darkness aka Alex Karloutsos to finally “retire” – beat it –
    the way Elps would like?
    I already hear a few Orthodox Greeks marking up posters expressing disdain for Patriarchate

  2. Once again, I come to this blog for truth.

    A dysfunctional church must be brought in order, otherwise it will cause irreparable harm for the cause of Christ in a community.

    The chaos and corruption is so severe and there are no remedies.

    I think the GOA hierarchy might find it necessary to actually the close the archdiocese temporarily or permanently.

    Personally, I was deeply spiritually fractured by the insanity of the GOA ball of spaghetti. I am still not over this. I cannot enter another Orthodox Church.

    Do not give these charlatans money. Do not attend their churches. They will fracture your spiritual life.

  3. In order to save the GOA it might be best to temporarily close all GOA churches. The situation is severe. The flock is confused. The sheep are scattered:

    A dysfunctional church will usually manifest several or all of the following symptoms:

    1. Unethical or immoral behavior tolerated in either leadership or laity.
    2. An absence of teaching or correction in matters of sin.
    3. Dictatorial or unethical church leadership or government.
    4. A failure to recognize practical spiritual priorities.
    5. Too much emphasis on esoteric thought or theory rather than practical ideals and application.
    6. Unscriptural or unbalanced preaching and teaching.
    7. Too much emphasis upon the superficial or sensational.
    8. Irresponsibility in business matters or in public relations.
    9. Isolation from the rest of the body of Christ.
    10. A sense of confusion and a lack of purpose by the congregation.
    11. An absence of spiritual fruit (Gal. 5:22-23).

    • Whoa! Thank you for posting! History informs the present! Time for the GOA flock to perform an old American “Boston Tea Party!” Turkeys threatening encroachment on Greek and American Orthodox Christians must end.
      Stand for freedom!

  4. How about a petition “online?” You know…
    Change.org! C H A N G E. All fraud exposed will help the congregation feel clean. Dirt has been thrown on the GOA congregation. This is very sad.
    This is so sad.

  5. Excellent article, it covers all corners.
    I believe that Biden finally will meet with
    Pat.Bartholomew , because Karloutsos is
    going to pass the message to the President
    that the Patriarch may be able to cure his
    brains. He is a great Magician ….!

  6. With an overall 38% approval rating of the other “B” player in this thrones’ game –why would they let Pa .B. near the white house? See the correlation? Both “B” and “B” are toxic to their diminishing minions…..There is no one left to “impress” ! Both B’s get booed off the world stage! Thank you Mr. S.— you have clarified so much for us!

  7. Nick, you are absolutely WRONG about an autonomous (autocephalous) Greek Orthodox Church here in America. Such a move would be DISASTROUS to our Faith, believe me. Archbishop Iakovos was NOT in favor of this (as the minutes and eyewitness accounts at Ligonier show, as well as conversations he had with his various higher-ups in the Archdiocese back in the day), contrary to what you might think. If this were to happen, it would be the end of Orthodoxy in America. (That is, TRUE Orthodoxy. The Faith would get “watered down” and we would be nothing more than another feel-good protestant-like religion, having lost all Tradition.) I know you don’t believe this, but I pray that this does NOT happen so I can then tell you, “I told you so.”

    • Do you mean the faith is not watered down now? With the participation of ALL in the “ecumenist” move? It’s not watered down when major parishes do not bother to have a minimum of “bible study”? When spirituality is completely absent and there is not even a chance in the future because everybody in the Phanar cares ONLY for money?
      I will stop here… This argument about “faith” is the most empty argument I have ever heard… At least some serious Phanar supporters refer to geopolitical issues and the State Dept… But “faith” from the “empty suits”, completely faithless hierarchs of Phanar? Faith from Met. Emmanuel – candidate for Patriarch – who recently emptied the Metropolis of Paris of all furniture as it was his father’s inheritance? P-LEASE…

    • Because, according to the Phanariots, we do not count… We are slaves to them… The Phanariots have a long history of abusing the people they “rule”… If you have any Romanian friends ask them what they suffered under the Phanariots for over a century…

  8. What Faith??
    When we discover that sleaze-bag Met. Emanuel of France is promoted instead of defrocked after cops find him throwing one of his many gay sex orgies –
    right inside Fanar?

    When it’s exposed that our new Archbishop Elpi of America is living with homosexual bfs & scandalized us with foolishness unbecoming a holy man,
    then you’ve got to scream ENOUGH!

  9. I very much hope there are many faithful who are planning to protest Pat. Bartholomew like the protests in Ukraine when he “visited.”

  10. Isn’t it a Pity?
    Isn’t it a Shame?
    Protesting is long overdue.
    Even monks on Mount Athos will protest if Bartholomew arrives with his glorified gangsters in robes.

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