EDITOR’S NOTE (Nick Stamatakis): This is truly a bombshell!! A film presented in the website www.goorthodox.com features a number of “scholars,” many of who we already know, like the Fordhamites Chryssavgis, Papanikolaou, Demacopouls, and others… It is truly an eye-opening experience to see all these supposedly respected academicians and priests try to ram down our throats all the “wokism” that we see practiced in our educational system and all the LGBTQ agenda. The problem is that they are doing it within the Orthodox Church, and they aim to force us to accept tenets that are OUTSIDE OUR FAITH.
I am speechless as I am trying to figure out the extent to which these people have been trying to undermine Orthodoxy… The best way will be to open it to all of you for commentary, and I am sure we will have to come back and write again…
Below you can see the video, WHICH IS ONLY PART 1 of this article – and after the video, you can see it transcribed… Then you can link here to see Part 2. I SUGGEST THAT YOU FOLLOW THE LINKS FOR PART 1 AND PART 2 SO THAT YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE PHOTOS THAT ARE PART OF THE VIDEO…
- Nick Jovcic-Sas– Living in the UK, Nick claims to be an Orthodox Christian while openly practicing homosexuality and advocating strongly for the worldwide acceptance of this sin. His YouTube channel reaches tens of thousands of young impressionable Orthodox Christians.
He has appeared on mainstream British television a number of times and he lectured in some of the top Orthodox universities, conventions, and various other forums; teaching thousands how to twist Orthodox dogma to include perversion. He has also marched in the Belgrade Pride Parade with a desecrated image of the Mother of God with the “Pride Flag” as the halo.
Jovcic-Sas [00:00:55] I am an Orthodox Christian and I wouldn’t go walking in the street with an icon that I thought was blaspheming God. This image belongs to LGBT Christians as much as it belongs to anyone else. And I think we need to investigate this idea that icons or the church are against the LGBT community.
Jovcic-Sas [00:01:22] Hello, everyone. I’m just here at home in the UK and I wanted to take a second to talk to you about this. It’s a petition by someone called Elizabeth Dunbar, and it’s addressed to all Orthodox bishops in America to take action against false teachings.
I have a theology degree from King’s College London, published academic work and have been an Orthodox Christian my entire life. None of my haters can land any substantial criticism about what I’ve said, so they’ve had to resort to a childish campaign of ad hominem attacks.
Jovcic-Sas [00:01:54] So God created man in his own image. In the image of God. He created him, male and female He created them. It seems his interpretation is that this verse is proof that God created a strict gender binary and that there’s something wrong with anyone who falls outside or in between. Now, that is an absolutely terrible reading of that verse.
Sky News Interviewer [00:02:13] First, I speak to Nick Jovcic-Sas on an Orthodox Christian and LGBTQ activist in Bath and Mark Hill QC, who specializes in ecclesiastical law and religious liberty.
Jovcic-Sas [00:02:26] Well, I’m very shocked and disappointed by it. I think fundamentally the UK law shouldn’t protect racism, shouldn’t protection sexism and it shouldn’t protect homophobia. And I think I find it particularly alarming.
As someone who is a devout Christian themselves, I don’t understand what this has to do with the protection of my faith. At the end of the day, if you aren’t in favor of gay marriage, if you don’t want a gay marriage, don’t have one. And if you don’t like writing nice messages on cakes, then maybe you shouldn’t be a baker.
Sky News Interviewer [00:03:01] Contrary to what you’re saying, Mark Hill QC is saying this is supporting freedom of speech, this judgement.
Jovcic-Sas [00:03:07] Well, I think it’s kind of a little bit of double talk going on right here because I think sometimes fundamentalists will sort of say one thing, and mean another. So, for example, on the issue of abortion, people say they’re pro-life, but what they really mean is they’re anti-choice. I think in this instance, what’s being said is people are saying they’re freedom of speech.
We’re talking about is the freedom of people to hate and discriminate against certain groups. And I think the implications of this ruling shows that, you know, people still think that homophobia is an acceptable belief in this country, that minorities, gay people like myself, shouldn’t have equal rights to other people, and that should be protected by UK law.
2. Gregory Tucker – A close colleague of Jovcic-Sas and a practicing homosexual, Tucker is the editor of two major American “Orthodox” publications; The Wheel and Public Orthodoxy. He has lectured along with many on this list in numerous “Orthodox” conventions including internationally. He is currently living in the USA, is a graduate of St. Vladimir’s Seminary, is working towards earning a PhD at the Jesuit Fordham University, is legally married to a former monk, and is still allowed to be an active member of an Orthodox Church.
Tucker [00:06:29] The Orthodox Church is not a secret society. It does not possess special information or data which is unavailable to other people. It’s a discursive society in which truth is arrived at together. And so, it’s essential that the world and the wider church can see this conversation taking place on what are the most controversial and pressing pastoral issues of the contemporary age.
3. Dean Brandon Gallaher – A graduate of St. Vladimir’s Seminary, Gallaher is a strong proponent of the Orthodox Church becoming “more inclusive to members of the LGBTQ+ community”. He has very negative views of the Russian Orthodox Church because of its upholding of traditional morality and for this reason, has compared it to the Nazi collaborators.
Gallaher [00:08:51] So what our project means to do is to bring together Western policy makers from government as well as think tanks, as well as specialists in Eastern Orthodoxy, theologians and scholars and churchmen, so that they can talk about positive and constructive ways that Western governments can deal with cultures and governments that are formed by the Orthodox ethos.
Gallaher [00:09:21] However, very many different things have led in towards anti modernism, anti-secularism and anti-Westernism, which is one of the great themes of Dr. Kelly’s series. So, in what we are suggesting, therefore, is that Orthodoxy, like other non-Western religions and cultures, can construct an alternate modernity and secularism, a new post-modern Orthodox identity that respects its Eastern pre-modern heritage but is non-reactionary and in productive dialogue with Western modernity.
This would be a vision that does not capitulate to the privatization and individualization of so much Western religion and maintains Orthodoxy distinctives, including a refusal to separate into distinct spheres the secular and the sacred, a cosmic vision of creation in which Christ and the Church elevate and transfigure all of society, as well as an aesthetical and sacramental ethos, but at the same time being in dialogue with many things that we can learn from the West, including, for example, the tradition of human rights, the inviability of the will of the individual and self-determination with equal opportunity for all, regardless of gender, respect for nontraditional sexual diversity, and allowing for religious and non-Orthodox visions that challenge and are in contradiction to Orthodoxy.
Gallaher [00:10:59] Orthodoxy is encountering modernity. It is in its liturgical consciousness. It hasn’t really changed its basic liturgical texts, and its spirituality and its theology have, by and large, remain the same. And they were, in a way, put down into print and published in the beginning of the early modern period. And so, they reflect, as it were, a lost universe. And this still goes on.
But we are now, as it were, thrown or thrust into a late, modern, a late form of capitalism, which has all these different challenges. A hyper individualism, hyper rationalism; and Orthodoxy is no exception. It has to deal with these difficulties. And there are major, major controversies, because how do you remain true to the tradition of the Orthodox Church but still deal with the fact of these major issues and the existence of LGBTQ+ people who are Orthodox and who wish to be full members of that communion.
Gallaher [00:12:46] I have many close colleagues amongst which was Father Cyril Hovorun and as well as Father Nicholas Denysenko and others; you can see this systemically in the speeches of President Putin and in the homilies, as well as a long-time writings, of Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and in a much, much softer version in Metropolitan of Hilarion.
And I explained this and I said in some of these webinars that I where I was speaking that really what was needed for the Orthodox Church was something akin to the Barmen declaration, which was initially drafted by Carl Barat, as well as the Confessing Christians against the German sort of well, Nazi church, to be frank.
5. George Demacopoulos – As a professor of theology, Demacopoulos has co-founded and is co-director the successful publication Public Orthodoxy, the International Orthodox Theological Association (IOTA), and the Orthodox Christian Studies Center (OCSC) at the Jesuit Fordham University. He is strongly against any traditional family values, has spoken out against the core nuclear family as being the foundation for healthy Christian living, and has publicly condemned any who believe that the Eucharist does not transmit disease; a teaching that has been a part of the Orthodox Faith since its beginning.
Joseph McShane [00:13:59] The Orthodox Studies Center at Fordham is, as you may know, it’s unique in all the world. It’s the only center for the study of Eastern Orthodox Christian Studies that is located in a Jesuit and Catholic University.
George Demacopoulos [00:14:12] I would say what makes the Orthodox Christian Study Center at Fordham University so unique is it’s the first research university to develop a center dedicated to the history and culture of the Orthodox Christian world.
Aristotle Papanikolaou [00:14:25] Because we’re in a university, we have a mission to the students to provide ways in which they can faithfully, but yet in a critical way, engage their Orthodox tradition together with worship, of course.
Sarah Riccardi-Swartz [00:14:36] Scholars are passionate about the center because they see in it a place where we can have dialogue about what Orthodox Christianity means in the world, what it means socially, politically, theologically, and how it’s impacted by and impacts different social structures in the United States and the world more broadly.
Kassandra Ibrahim [00:14:55] I think it’s really interesting to study Orthodox Christianity with art history and specifically with Byzantine artifacts. You understand art more and you understand culture more if you understand the faith backgrounds that support it.
Aristotle Papanikolaou [00:15:06] There’s no question that we are well known internationally, especially within ecclesial circles. I think we’re known as a place that is trying to promote Orthodox Catholic unity, but even Christian unity more broadly, I think within the Orthodox world, we’re definitely known as and I think provide encouragement to those who want to raise and discuss certain kinds of questions within the church.
Bishop Irinej Dobrijevic [00:15:26] One of the things that I like about this center and the way it approaches theology, specifically Orthodox Christian theology and studies in general, is that they do so with a certain boldness. And I like that boldness because it speaks to the fact that Orthodoxy is not something which is isolated. It is not something which is frozen in time, but it’s indeed a very living, viable study of Orthodox Christianity.
Bryan Massingale [00:16:00] Happy pride. I’m Bryan Massingale. I’m a professor at Fordham University in New York City. I’m obviously a Catholic priest. I’m obviously a black man. And not so obvious is that I’m also openly gay. You know black people come in every shade of the rainbow, literally a rainbow from albino white to jet coal black. And if nothing in that spectrum can turn you on. That’s not preference. That’s prejudice.
Sister Vassa Larin [00:16:37] Both of you are Orthodox Christians.
George Demacopoulos [00:16:40] Yes. We’re both Orthodox Christians. We were both raised in the church. Talley’s father was a was a rather famous priest in Chicago. My father in law was a priest for 50 years in New Jersey. So, we’re both graduates of the Orthodox Seminary.
We are about as Orthodox as it gets. I recite the creed. I believe in the creed. I, I, I’m so invested in this. I’ve spent my entire life studying the church fathers and the tradition of the church and so forth. I mean, both are personal commitments to the faith, and our teaching reflects the Orthodox tradition.
6. Aristotle Papanikolaou – A close colleague of Demacopoulos, Papanikolaou is the other co-founder and co-director of Public Orthodoxy, IOTA, and the OCSC at Fordham University. He has advocated for the injection of Liberation Theology, moral relativism, and cultural Marxism into the Orthodox Theology. He is strongly in favor of the feminist movement to install women deaconesses into the Orthodox Church and eventually women priests. And he believes that the LGBTQ+ community has a place in Orthodox Theology.
Papanikolaou [00:17:19] Both personally and the center itself is absolutely committed to the dogmatic tradition, and we consider the dogmatic tradition non-negotiable. We have a form called public Orthodoxy. And if someone wanted to write something for us that basically tried to argue against the divinity of Christ, we wouldn’t publish it.
Kind of an interesting thing because there are some people with an interest that call me a traditionalist in that sense because I do affirm Byzantine music and some other aspects of the church.
Papanikolaou [00:18:15] In light of this, the real target for Orthodox political rhetoric should not be certain moral issues, such as abortion or gay marriage, but hyper individualism. It may be the case that the kind of hyper individualism that one witnesses in the West is a product of unregulated capitalism, more than liberal democracy.
The Times Square experience, I think, indicates that hyper individualism and the buffer itself is fueled not so much by the anthropological presuppositions of liberal democracy per se, but by capitalism that is not motivated by the common good and its critique of the hyper individualism enabled by the illusory sense of the self as buffer. The Orthodox would find common cause with many other religious traditions as well, as well as some specialists within the social sciences and the humanities toward an understanding of the self as always and forever porous, even in the imminent frame that is the political space.
In doing so, you could open up the possibility of a relational cell and to a vision of the flourishing of the self in forms of relationships that are realized through the virtues. Rather than emphasizing the vague notion of values or morality. It could point to the value of virtue enabled forms of relationships. We can imagine the secularized space for realizing forms of virtue enabled relationality among peoples with diverse, ultimate commitments, even as it works toward an overlapping consensus on those values.
Could imagine that supporting the political legalization of gay unions as a way of affirming that committed long term relationships that even involve sex, no matter who the persons are, manifest the very virtues that St Maximus identifies with the presence of God and thus stop the very cruel and un-theosis-like and in that sense, heretical, identification of being gay with prostitution, perversity, and pedophilia, which is which is fueled by a Nestorian logic.
Papanikolaou [00:20:02] Issues of gender, sex, and sexuality are so controversial in the Orthodox Church, primarily because there’s been such an openness in Western countries, and the churches feel somewhat threatened that any kind of openness to discussing those issues would be a kind of watering down of their tradition and a kind of surrendering to perhaps atheist secularism.
There are also the political issues, the way the churches are using this, especially within the Eastern European countries, as this kind of red line, this kind of dividing line over and against a kind of an imagined sort of liberal secularism, in my opinion. We’re only beginning this discussion.
Papanikolaou [00:27:40] Now for 2012, the Russian Orthodox Church, together with Putin, seem to be projecting themselves in a particular way geopolitically as defenders of traditional values. And in fact, there even perhaps one could even say that a new geopolitical East-West divide has been carved out based on the traditional values agenda.
And even evangelical Christians in the West are looking to Russia, Russian government, the Russian Orthodox Church, as global leaders on these particular issues.
End of Part 1 of this article and transcript, for Part 2, click here.
Oh, no. When will this stop?!
Corruption of the values and grand opening
to all kind of sex without shame .
NY times were right when years ago wrote :
“ It is not right for the animals when we say people
are acting like annimals”.
How many Orthodox Christians hierarchs are Free Masons? At this moment in time, we know that intelligence agents, and the deep state are trying to destroy Orthodox Christianity. I read Russian Faith site every day. I read my Orthodox Study Bible. I do not trust any Orthodox Christian leadership in the GOA or OCA at this time.
I used to attend every liturgy in the GOA- not anymore. Recently, I called a priest in the OCA twice to ask for Confession and to discuss the chaos happening in American Orthodox Christian churches. I never heard back from him. I would love to attend a Russian Orthodox Church but there is none near me. I don’t care what these satanic soulless idiots preach. They can all go to hell for all I care. I belong to Christ.
A great evil is upon us. “Masonry and Ecumenism go hand in hand, seeking to subvert traditional Christian teachings, doctrine, and dogma on every level. This is essential for the establishment and advancement of the globalist agenda.
The goal of the spirit of Ecumenism is the destruction of Truth — thus it hates Orthodoxy most of all. We should not be surprised that it seeks to destroy It.”
Fr. Zechariah Lynch ( Russian Faith blog)
Everyone I know is weeping,
so ashamed of fellow Christians who’ve sold out to Satan’s latest cabal: Orthodoxy!
I would also recommend “The LGBT Agenda in Western Orthodoxy” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EXWIBnMktY). This one includes some individuals not shown in the video you watched, and some extra clips. I would consider it to be complimentary.
Beware of false prophets,
who come to you in sheep’s clothing
but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
I don’t quite understand the whole hysteria about Free Masonry? Whatever they were historically, certainly in 2022 they are not some underground insurgency as the hysteria portrays (Russian propaganda driven?).
The church cannot adequately respond to the attacks of the QUEER WOKE CULTURE movement because so many hierarchs and archimandrites (and monks) are themselves practicing homosexuals and/ or predators. We have to look at our own ranks to understand the underlying problem.
5th Saturday of Lent: The Akathist Hymn
Reading from the Synaxarion:
About the year 626, the Persians, Avars, and Slavs came with a great host and besieged the imperial city of Constantinople while the Emperor Heraclius and the main body of the Byzantine army were absent in the East. Enemy ships filled the sea, especially the Golden Horn, and on land the adversaries were ready for attack with foot-soldiers, horses, and engines of war. Though the citizens courageously withstood them, yet they were few in number and would be unable to repulse the attack of such a great host. Hence, they could not count on any other means of salvation, except the protection of the Theotokos. And truly, suddenly a violent tempest broke up all the ships and submerged them, and the bodies of the invaders were cast out near the Blachernae quarter of the city where the famous Church of the Theotokos stood. Taking courage from this, the people went forth from the city and repulsed the remaining forces, who fled out of fear. In 673, the city was miraculously delivered yet again, this time from an invasion of the Arabs. Then in 717-718, led by the Saracen general Maslamah, the Arab fleet laid siege once more to the city. The numerical superiority of the enemy was so overwhelming that the fall of the Imperial City seemed imminent. But then the Mother of God, together with a multitude of the angelic hosts, appeared suddenly over the city walls. The enemy forces, struck with terror and thrown into a panic at this apparition, fled in disarray. Soon after this, the Arab fleet was utterly destroyed by a terrible storm in the Aegean Sea on the eve of the Annunciation, March 24, 718. Thenceforth, a special “feast of victory and of thanksgiving” was dedicated to celebrate and commemorate these benefactions. In this magnificent service, the Akathist Hymn is prominent and holds the place of honour. It appears that even before the occasion of the enemy assaults mentioned above, the Akathist Hymn was already in use as the prescribed Service for the Feast of the Annunciation, together with the kontakion, “When the bodiless one learned the secret command,” which has the Annunciation as its theme. It was only on the occasion of the great miracle wrought for the Christian populace of the Imperial City on the eve of the Annunciation in 718 that the hymn “To thee, the Champion Leader” was composed, most likely by Saint Germanus, Patriarch of Constantinople.
Historians have ascribed the Akathist Hymn to Patriarch Sergius of Constantinople (638), to Saint George the Confessor, Bishop of Pisidia (818), or even to Saint Photius the Great (891), all of whom lived either at the time of or after the above-mentioned sieges. However, it appears most likely from its language, content, and style that the true composer of the Akathist Hymn is Saint Romanus the Melodist (6th century).
Apolytikion of 5th Sat. of Lent: The Akathist Hymn in the Plagal of the Fourth Tone
When the bodiless one learned the secret command, in haste he came and stood before Joseph’s dwelling, and spake unto the Maiden who knew not wedlock: The One Who hath bowed the Heavens by His descent is held and contained unchanging wholly in thee. Seeing Him receiving the form of a servant in thy womb, I stand in awe and cry to thee: Rejoice, thou Bride unwedded.
Kontakion of 5th Sat. of Lent: The Akathist Hymn in the Plagal of the Fourth Tone
To you, Theotokos, invincible Defender, having been delivered from peril, I, your city, dedicate the victory festival as a thank offering. In your irresistible might, keep me safe from all trials, that I may call out to you: “Hail, unwedded bride!
Pray to the Theotokos…..she will help us against all evil surrounding us. It’s only a matter of time before the evil doers of our beloved church will be annihilated. They won’t be there for long.
It’s embedded in the queerness of men being beyond attached to their mothers… That accounts for a large proportion of the judeo-christian men’ realm. As for greek mommas’ boys– look no further than the greeks!
But Larissa : what about gay men who lost mother as a child — heard it was the case of a gay Priest… hmmm?
I seriously believe ppl are BORN what they end up being…
look at parents who raise kids and one
ends up an Angel & the other kid is
“I seriously believe ppl are BORN what they end up being…” Zoey, are you implying that people have no free will? That they are not responsible for their own actions? Such moral determinism doesn’t agree with Orthodoxy.
I’m saying: ppl have free will and can choose good or evil —
so they’re upbringing doesn’t impact them completely…
Example: my siblings are atheists & my parents and I are devout believers. Why?
Bc of free will
GOA can only hope to be a gateway for western religions for its ethnic flock, as the Holy Planet of America cannot tolerate your subversive soviet proclivities. You yourself proclaimed omonia, aka communitarianism of Plato, Confucius and John Rawls. If you come to America you are obligated to assimilate, not just linguistically, but religiously and culturally, and further to bring American values to your lands of origin, not the other way around. As Bobby Jindhal said, “immigration without assimilation is invasion”.
Sorry, but if you are trying to discuss the most ancient Christian faith in terms of immigration and assimilation, you are way off the mark… This is the definition of sophistry, according to my forefathers… Should we also change the meaning of sophistry to accommodate your conceptual and logical jumps? Please look up sophistry before you reply…
Yes- Zoey- you have a point…– and the gays were prone at birth but there also probably had to have been a “perfect storm” of some kind …
The Deuteronomy-based Amphictyonic Republic if America was founded to get away from the caesaropapism of Rome, Besant and C(e)zars! This is why the Kennedies brought forth Vatican Two and Rerum Novarum and Biden needs to bring forth Vatican Three and Rerum Tertiorarum
The problem is simple to solve, actually…
Step 1) Formally Excommunicate those who preach a non-Orthodox dogma, and forbid them from calling themselves “Orthodox”. This includes anyone who may also be in the hierarchy…That way, whoever is “bankrolling” any “undercover demons”, will be formally bankrolling someone who is no longer recognized as Orthodox.
Step 2) Refer to step 1 in case you didn’t read it the first time.
well it’s why Petition is going round
to free American Orthodox from
subverter Elpidoforos & it’ll happen.
By next year Elps is history.
Something wicked this way cometh—straight out of the gutter!
As I watched this film, it was clear that there are lies upon lies with contradictions throughout. These subverters are incoherent at worst, laughable at best.
I agree with Markos, these are not Orthodox, do not strive to be, and so should be ousted (excommunicated) from the Church. They do not belong to us, they belong to those NGOs and government bodies.
Close the GOA down. Take back your churches. You built them under the guise of non profit corporations connected to government edicts.
Crank up new Orthodox Christian churches that do not rely on ‘perks and goodies’ from government. Be autonomous. Each GOA church must drop non profit status. ASAP!
1954: Lyndon Johnson passed law making churches non profits corporations.
Someone should show Elpedo this documentary about BLM.
Well, that is the way GOA organized before 1922. Annunciation and the Manhattan Cathedral were incorporated under Athena Brotherhood (https://www.annunciation-nyc.org/our-parish/our-parish-history; Kourides centennial cathedral history) because NYS law would have put them under the Russians.
GOA has aligned itself with the globalist 2030 Agenda. How do we begin tear away from this evil agenda? Any ideas? Our priests don’t seem to grasp the dire magnitude of this alignment. Thank you.
But Orthodox have always been progressive and globalist. It is you who are perverting Orthodoxy with your fascism. (Is Orthodox Christianity progressive? Michelle Boorstein Washington Post 11-4-09) Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew spoke about the spiritual imperative for nonviolence, universal health care and reducing consumption to help the environment.) Soviet Seleucid Grystlestolm wrote “The rich are in possession of the goods of the poor, even if they have acquired them honestly” (Lazarus 11) and “Questioning is the subversion of faith” (Timothy 1). Theodosian Code promoted confiscatory taxation and promoted Diocletian socialist feudalism (Rostovtzeff 1926, Gibbon ch. 13) that Toynbee (1939, IV p. 399) said caused Anatolia to apostase into Turkishness. A neighboring official wrote how their perfidious, slothful cult of envy begat Communism (World Bank WPS8399 April 2018). After the communist zealot massacre of Thesalonia aristocracy in 1342, Cantacusene usurpation of 1345 orchestrated by Moscow with omphaloscopic hesyogasm. Massacres of sixty thousand Latins in 1182 Istanbul blinded Enrico Dandolo who sought revenge in 1205 when Russians subdued by Mongols. Pope made Charlemagne emperor because Irene Fourtipace invented welfare. Justinian closing the universities promoted plague and Islam. Justinian Novella 85 is the precedent for gun control.
Something wicked this way comes. Be prepared, brothers. The fight will come to men on all fronts.
These individuals are so obsessed with sex and sexuality, theyve based their entire lives around the topic. You will find this sick obsessive spirit all throughout these affiliated gender ideologues.