EDITOR’S NOTE: The Greek Orthodox Church had about 550,000 followers before 2020 (before the pandemic and before the arrival of the typhoon “AB Elpidoktonos”) and lost nearly 175,000 since… Recent numbers from GOARCH insiders show that the real number of participants is only about 200,000 now… Last Sunday in Saint Demetrios of Astoria, about 45-50 people attended a Church that used to have three services on Sunday just a few years ago…
There is a general trend in modern American Orthodoxy: Many converts from other denominations, which may give us a partial answer. Converts to Orthodoxy are seeking a return to the basics of the Christian faith…THEY DO NOT WANT A LEADERSHIP THAT PUSHES NOVELTIES AND WOKISM AND HOMOSEXUALITY…
Will Bartholomew and Elpidoktonos learn the lesson?
BELOW IS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION OF FACTS AND TRENDS BY JOSHUA OF “READY TO HARVEST”
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It’s amazing how many converts to Orthodoxy there are…especially as monastics: it’s amazing the positive influence (that’s an understatement) Elder Ephraim has: on the flip side, both Bart and Elpi drive people away with their presence. And they don’t care about souls: they only care about money, power, luxury and comfort. I think once they go, there will be an awakening but first, they have to go.
Elpidoktonos – an embarrassing disgrace!
I know plenty Orthodox who refuse to attend church because of Elps.
What a mess.
ANAXIOS.
Is the Orthodox Church in America shrinking? I’ve been all over the U.S and what I see is the complete opposite. Parishes are bursting at the seems. In my 7 years of being Orthodox I’ve never seen anything like it.
I think a better question is: Is the GOA shrinking? That would be a resounding yes. For those of us in the GOA or who spend any amount of time around GOA parishes are aware that membership is plummeting. Any secular organization that experienced such losses would fire their CEO, but, Elpi still remains. The membership in the GOA will continue to plummet while the other
Orthodox jurisdictions continue to grow.
And that’s a good thing. It is proving that the faithful sheep know the voice of the Good Shepherd and are following Him (in other Orthodox jurisdictions, like ROCOR, the Georgian, Serbian etc Orthodox churches) and are not following the wolves in sheep’s clothing like Elpidophoros and Bartholomew. Then, by the time they join the Pope on Easter 2025, their following will be minuscule and with all embarrassment and self destruction, they will have cut themselves off from the true Orthodox Church, them and their homosexual, Freemason, Ecumenist followers, and we will finally be rid of them all. Glory be to God for his incomprehensible Wisdom and Mercy. A schism like that would be a great blessing.
“Will Bartholomew and Elpidoktonos learn the lesson?”
No
I think it should be apparent to everyone that they are incapable of learning lessons, and in fact, they go headlong into the OPPOSITE direction.
The “woker” they go–the more will walk away…
Over the past year or so we have slowly transitioned from the GOA parish our grandparents and great grandparents helped found. With their dimes and nickels they laid the foundation of a truly American Orthodox Church built proudly on its Greek roots and heritage. That Church has become hollowed out. Only ones left are some old folks and new families relatively recently off the boat. Many of us have gone to the OCA. A few to AA or ROCOR. And sadly many just don’t go anywhere. Until the EP and his overseas team are cleaned out of E. 79th Street, the collapse will continue. They will have much to answer for when they stand before Him. But I don’t think many of them really believe in Him. They could not and still do the things that they do.
I was baptized in the GOA and went to seminary at holy cross in Boston. Now I go to a Russian Orthodox Parish.
I could not be any happier
!0 year studies in the hands of All clergy of the Greek Orhodox Churches , which I have a copy of , provided to me by a board member of a Greek Orthodox Church, released in 2020 before the Covid pandemic, indicates and confirms allegations that the Greek Orthodox Christian membership has lost over 25% of its base since 2010, and actural attendance has dropped significantly ! Furhtermore the stundiies indicate that the Eastern Orhtodox Churches are growing rapidly, far exceeding Greek Orthodox churches !
So I will add, this is before Covid lockdowns of our Churches., one can only imagine what it is …now!
While it is clear ..that the State Department and C.I.A agents have recruted Bartholomew and the Greek Orthodox Church to undermine the Orthodox order of the Ukraine, and now America, they fabricate that Russian Spies have inflitrated Greek Orthodox and Orthodox Churces of Eastern Europe in America to recruit e Orhtodox Chirstian Clergy and Parishioners to spread Anit Russian Hate to support theire criminal war in Ukraine to continue to send Orthodox Christian Ukainians to their suicidal deaths, now reaching 550,000.
And these are the guys who are protecting the Greek Orthossoc Christians of Greece and Cyprus , and these are the same guys who keep Bartholomew, MIstotakis , Ahepa , Hellas , PYatt in business to protect them to stay in power and betray the interest of all Orthodxo Christianz….
Today, I have advised my chufrch parish that … I will be reducing my stewardhip grant to my church by 20%, which will be now allocated to the Philoptohos for the love of the poor of America, Russia , Syrai , Greece and Cyprus!
Nobody should abandon the Greek Orthodox Church ,no matter what Barholome does , and inform your boards and Clergy that you do not recognize Barholomew , EPi and the Archdioces of North America , only the Clergy and Board olf our churches!
What we all have to realize , that if you are informed orthodox Christian, you are obligated to defend the church against evil!
Don’t blame the Greek Orthodox Church , history has taught us all organizations ultimately die from corrupted Tyrants who violate the laws of God or Governments !
All we need to do … is actively continue to attend our churches , be informed of the crimnial behaviors of th ef the Governemnt and Church , and then advise the boards that they will see their stewardhip shrink unless they for starters …
Publically condemn the actions of the U.S govenment and Bartholomew to aid and abett the persecution of Orhtodox Christian churched in the Ukraine, and now America, and the promoting of Anti Chiristion Values by Bartholomew and EPI .!
Time for the GOA to become Autocephalous- Just like Ukraine was recently….
The GOA must realize it can only be a bridge to western religions and will not be allowed to subvert American values. If you don’t like it go to Siberia where the Skoptosy Russians can circumcise your daughters.
As bad as Elpidoktonos is and he is horrible, abandoning our Greek Orthodox Churches that we built, is not the answer, jumping to other jurisdictions is also definitely not the answer.
Fight for what our ancestors built!