The Orthodox View of Israel with Jim Jatras – The Counterflow Podcast with Buck Johnson

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  1. Thank you , Nick for this article , I hope everyone watches thiis, as I have all the way !
    However, it does valisdate the fact that Evangelicals and Protestants who run the U.S . Government and Congress are mortal threat to security and peace of all humanity!

    Today, Hagee and Eksteing …the leaders of the “International Fellowship of Chritian and Jews Organziation” who fraudulently portray themselves as caretakers of popr Jewish citizens, but who actually are a propaganda machine spreading false information about the Righteousness of Israel , have launched their advertising campaign on Fox News and elsewhere , literally , asking for Evangelicals to send money to them to save the Jews of Israel , victims of an unporvoke war , as well as , send mailers to home of America !
    AS Yatras said theire is no Judaio/Christian alliance , and there has never been a fellowship of Christian and Jews anywhere , except between Jewish and Evangelical Zionist!!

    Only the Presbyterian Church of America ..has always condemned Israel for being an Apartheid State and persecuting the Palestinians and violating there human rightss! And they like anyone else who is anti -Israel are called Anti-Semetic!

    The problem is …if the muslim states do enter the war on Israel, no matter how it ends … Orthodox and Catholic Christians of the Middle East will be victimc of the Evangelical Zionist Christian war! The blowback by a United Muslam middle East … because of these Jewish and Evangelcial Zionist …could drive the entire Greek Orthodox populatin out of the middle East as it did to the Greek Orthodox community of Iraq!

    The best thing the Orthodox Chruch and Catholic churches should do …is to decertify the Evangelcial Chruch as a Christian Church in America … and refute their biblical teachings ! And demand …that separaton of State and Church be reinstated! Which means Republican and Democratic party full of Evangelical must be dismantled! And by the way … I hope you are not deluded into thinking Trump is not a Zionist …beleive me ..his rabbi was Morris Adelman …Casino Magnet and accuse of being associated with Organized Crime by the Chinese!

    Additionally, these fanatics have 200 nuclear weapons , and they willl do anything to preserve their power,! one of their nut job in the keneset indicated they should nuke Gaza… and maybe Iran … which will tear down the entire world …in other words they are black mailing the world and America !

  2. It seems that you have a deep animosity toward the Jewish people, and the nation they established to protect themselves from such feelings. I think the following 1903 letter from Blessed Anthony Khrapovitsky of Kiev is enlightening in this regard, which he wrote in criticism of the Russian anti-Jewish pogroms prior to the Bolshevik Revolution.

    Blessed Antony Khrapovitsky, Metropolitan of Kiev
    Cathedral of Zhitomir April 20, 1903

    The joyous feast of reconciliation, the Resurrection of Christ, continues. We have
    completed the commemoration of the Thomas, who was the first to confess that the
    risen Jesus is our true God, and we are now singing of the deeds of the
    myrrhbearers. We commemorate those women who did not grow weak in their
    faithfulness to Christ even during the terrible days when He was betrayed and put
    to death, and who were accounted worthy to announce His resurrection to the
    apostles. The apostles would enlighten the world by proclaiming the resurrection,
    but these holy women had first enlightened the apostles with it.
    In extolling their faith, the Church calls all of us to imitate this struggle and to
    participate in the preaching of the resurrection. We are called upon to become so
    penetrated by joy in Him that we not only forget about the evil done against us by
    enemies, but to forgive from our hearts their hatred toward us and not only forgive
    them, but even love our enemies. We must now strive to embrace with love all
    mankind, inviting them to share with us the spiritual ecstacy of that new life
    revealed so clearly to us, that everlasting life filled with blessed communion with
    God. Now is fulfilled that prophecy of Isaiah; “And everlasting joy … illness,
    sorrow and sighing have, fled away” (Is 35:10).
    The grace of Christ’s resurrection shines brightly even in our corrupt age, and it
    shines not only on the pious but even on those who are unconcerned. During these
    sacred days, those who did not pray earlier now turn to prayer; even those whose
    hearts were hardened. We greet one another with the kiss of peace, and even the
    unmerciful and miserly find pleasure in showing love toward their neighbor.
    “Christ is risen and life springs forth” as the God-fearing voice of Chrysostom
    proclaims. But amidst such comforting circumstances in our Christian life,
    sorrowful, shameful news reaches us that in the city of Kishenev, on the very day
    of Christ’s resurrection, on the day of forgiveness and reconciliation, there occurred
    the cruel inhuman massacre of unfortunate Jews.
    At the very time when in the holy temples there was being sung, “Let us embrace
    one another and say ‘brother’ even to those who hate us…” yes at that very time,
    outside the church walls, a drunken, beastly mob broke into Jewish homes, robbing
    the peaceful inhabitants and tearing human beings into pieces. They threw their
    bodies from windows into the streets and looted Jewish stores. A second crazed,
    greed filled mob rushed in to steal the clothing and jewelry from the bloodied
    corpses, seizing everything they could lay hand on. Like Judas, these robbers
    enriched themselves with silver drenched in blood – the blood of these hapless
    human sacrifices!
    O God! How did Thy goodness endure such an insult and offence to the day of Thy
    saving passion and glorious resurrection! Thou didst endure Thy terrible struggle
    so that we would be dead to sin and live in Thee (Rm.6:11), but here they cruelly and
    in a most beastly manner slaughtered those who are Thy relatives according to the
    flesh, who, though they did not recognize Thee are still dear to Thy heart as Thou
    Thyself didst say not long before Thou didst suffer in the flesh, “O Jerusalem,
    Jerusalem, thou who killest the prophets and stone those who are sent to thee; how
    often have I longed to gather your children as a hen gathers its chicks under its
    wing, and you desired it not” (Matt. 23:37).
    O brethren, I wish to make you understand this so that you would comprehend that
    even today the Jewish tribe is dear to God’s heart, and realise that God is angered
    by anyone who would offend that people. Lest anyone suppose that we are
    selecting words from the sacred scripture with partiality, let me cite for you the
    words of that man whom the Jews hated above all men. This is the man whom a
    company of the Jews vowed neither to eat nor drink until they had killed him (Acts
    23:12) – Apostle Paul.
    Hearken to the words of God’s spirit speaking through him: “I say the truth in
    Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing my witness in the Holy Spirit, that I
    have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. For I could wish that I
    myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the
    flesh: Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the
    covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
    Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is
    over all, God blessed for ever. Amen” (Rm. 9:1-5).
    Startling and frightening word! Did you truly write them, Paul, you who came to
    love Christ, who began to live in Christ as Christ lived in you? For whose sake did
    you consent to be separated from Christ? Was it not you, Paul, who wrote the lines
    preceding this verse “For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels,
    nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height,
    nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God,
    which is in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Rm.8:38-39). Even the angels could not have done
    that which you would voluntarily have done for the sake of the salvation of the
    Jews – those who were your enemies, your betrayers, they who beat you with whip,
    chained you in prison, exiled you and condemned you to death.
    Behold, brethren and marvel: these words of Apostle Paul are spoken concerning
    the Jews, even though they were opposed to Christ’s faith. Lest your perplexity i
    continue, that same apostle and martyr explaining in the following chapter, the
    reason for his love of the house of Israel! “Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to
    God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a
    zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s
    righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not
    submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God” (10:1-2)
    The words are confirmed in our own day by the life of the Jews. Observe for
    yourselves their dedication to their law, their preservation of the Sabbath, their
    faithfulness to their spouses, their love of work and their love toward their
    children, whom they encourage toward obedience. There was a time not so long
    ago when Christians excelled them in all these things, but in our present corrupt
    and degenerate age, we must look with regret upon all these qualities of the way of
    life of pious Jews. In our cities, the majority of Christians no longer distinguish
    between the ordinary day, feastdays and fasts, but have fallen into negligence and a
    loose life.
    It is true that there are also some like this among the Jews, but from whom did they
    learn such a disorderly path? Alas, from those whose forefathers confess Christ,
    from European and Russian nihilists who, like toads, swarm over our land, whose
    books and newspapers poison the air around us like the plague and cholera.
    The Karaim and Talmud Jews must be respected, but woe to both those nihilists
    from among the Jews and from among us, who are corrupting both family and
    society, who sow the seed of their contagion among Russian and Polish youth, and
    who are the main cause of the hatred toward the descendants of the holy
    forefathers and prophets beloved by the Lord. I am not speaking about respect for
    these nihilists among the Jews.
    Listen as the blessed apostle further explains the reason for his warm, self-denying
    love toward this people; hear how he explains their unbelief and obduracy toward
    Christ “I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather
    through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to
    jealousy” (11:11). If the Jews had all accepted Christ’s faith, then the heathens who
    despised the Jews would have rejected it. If the Jews had all believed, then we,
    brethren, would not have become Christians, but would still be worshipping Jupiter
    and Venus or Perun and Volass as our pagan ancestors did. Be cautious, therefore,
    about slandering the unbelief of the Jews; rather grieve over it and pray that the
    Lord may be revealed to them. Do not be at enmity with them, but respect the
    apostolic word about the Israelite root and the branches that broke from it “Because
    of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not high-minded,
    but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not
    thee. ” (11:20-21)
    O Christians, fear to offend the sacred, even though rejected, tribe. God’s
    recompense will fall upon those evil people who have shed blood which is of the
    same race as the Theanthropos, his most pure mother, apostles and prophets. Do
    not suppose that this blood was sacred only in the past, but understand that even in
    the future reconciliation to the divine nature awaits them (2Pt.1:4), as Christ’s chosen
    vessel further testifies, “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of
    this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is
    happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel
    shall be saved: as it is written. There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and
    shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I
    shall take away their sins” (11:25-27).
    Let the savage know that they have slain future Christians who were yet in the
    loins of the present day Jews; let them know that they have shown themselves to be
    bankrupt opponents of God’s providence, persecutors of a people beloved by God,
    even after its rejection (11:28).
    How sinful is enmity against Jews, based on an ignorance of God’s law, and how
    shall it be forgiven when it arises from abominable and disgraceful impulses. The
    robbers of the Jews did not do so as revenge for opposition to Christianity, rather
    they lusted for the property and possessions of others. Under the thin guise of zeal
    for the faith, they served the demon of covetousness. They resembled Judas who
    betrayed Christ with a kiss while blinded with the sickness of greed, but these
    murderers, hiding themselves behind Christ’s name, killed His kinsmen according
    to the flesh in order to rob them.
    When have we beheld such fanaticism? In Western Europe during the middle ages,
    heretics and Jews were shamefully executed, but not by mobs intent on robbing
    them.*
    How can one begin to teach people who stifle their own conscience and mercy,
    who snuff out all fear of God and, departing from the holy temple even on the
    bright day of Christ’s Resurrection, a day dedicated to forgiveness and love, but
    which they i rededicate to robbery and murder?
    O believers in God and His Christ! Fear the Lord’s judgment in behalf of His
    people. Fear to offend the inheritors of the promise, even though they have been
    renounced. We are not empowered to judge them for their unbelief; the Lord and
    not we will judge. We, looking upon their zeal even though it is “not according to
    knowledge” (Rm.10:2) would do better to contemplate their fathers: the righteous
    Abraham, Isaak, Jakob, Joseph and Moses, David and Samuel and Elijah, who rose
    to heaven still in the flesh. Look upon Isaiah who accepted voluntary death for the
    faith, Daniel who stopped the mouths of beasts in a lions’ den, and the Maccabbee
    martyrs who died with joy for the hope of resurrections. Let us not beat, slay and
    rob people, but soften their hardness toward Christ and Christians by means of our
    own fulfillment of the law of God. Let us multiply our prayer, love, fasting and
    alms and our concern for those who are suffering, let us be zealous about the true
    essence of the faith; let our light so shine before people that they may glorify our
    heavenly father and Christ. Let us overcome unbelief and impiousness among
    Christians first, and then concern ourselves with the Jews, “And he shall send Jesus
    Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heavens must receive until
    the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his
    holy prophets since the world began.” (Acts 3:20-21).

    • There is no animosity generally about the Jewish people in this website. But we view these issues in terms of the same human rights all nations are entitled to. The same UN principles that apply to the Jewish people should also apply to the Palestinians. But if they cannot police themselves and allow – as it happened yesterday – a minister of the government of the State of Israel to propose dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza, then they people of Israel have a bigger problem than those in the West hating them.

  3. Nick you are much to kind to thsi Mr .Denney, by offering a novel to sell his John Hagee , Pat Robinson, Jimmy Swagert and Fox News Evangelical support of genocide of the Paleatinian christians and Muslims !

    obviously , he did not take the time to watch your you tube interview with YATRAS AND jOHNSON WHO SPEND AN ENTIRE SHOW DISMANTLING jOHN hAGGE AND HIS EVANGELICAL CULT WHO GLORIFY EVANGELICAL STORM TROOPERS OF iSRAEL …GEORGE BUSH AND BLAIR FAMILIES !

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