EDITOR’S NOTE (Nick Stamatakis): An over 90-yr old priest saved the honor of Greek Orthodoxy and Hellenism by loudly protesting against the visit of the supreme globalist Pope Francis in Greece where he was received with the highest honors by the political and religious leadership. The Greek Police acting in a disgusting way (VIDEO BELOW) remOved the old priest – who said not one inappropriate word and was reading his orthodox positions to whoever would listen, as the Pope was entering the Archdiocese of Greece headquarters. The Pope spent most of his speeches in promoting the “rights of the migrants” totally disregarding the rights of the locals who are bound to become a minority in the land they inhabited for thousands of years!…
For one more time the Vatican finds a way to undermine Hellenism and shamelessly promotes foreign globalist interests in the land of our fathers and grandfathers. Yes, Pope Francis apologized to the Archbishop of Greece for the “mistakes” the Catholics have done over the centuries but not so publicly as Pope John Paul II had done during his visit to Athens in 2001. What “mistakes”? The Crusades devastated Greek lands much more savagely than they did the Middle East – and that’s a reason why the Crusaders are equally hated by Greeks and Arabs (and it is one of the main reasons they are united in their anti-Catholic identity). Not to mention the Vatican’s “modern mistakes”, the blessings to the Fascists and Nazis who dealt a huge blow to Greece during WW II and caused the death of hundreds of thousands and destruction of Greece beyond description. The Pope has no business dealing with Hellenism – his latest actions prove that the “apologies” have no meaning!…
To be fair, the Metropolitan of Piraeus Seraphim also issued a Sunday sermon almost 100% dedicated against the heresies of Papism. On the other side, Arch. Ieronymos a few days ago emphasized the need for the Church “to transmit to the young generations the spirit of 1821 without nationalist extremism“!! While there are so many dangers and threats in the horizon, the Archbishop of Greece is worried about nationalist extremism… Shameful…
No matter how much Bartholomew and Elpidoktonos try, Hellenism and Orthodoxy will never forget the heretic and criminal legacy of the Vatican. There are many practical ways the Pope could have helped and I will name only one: By convincing Germany – where he always had a big influence – to finally give remunerations to Greece for the many crimes the Nazis committed during WWII.
The Pope did help Israel and the Jews on that issue, didn’t he? Yes, my friends, historical evidence is now 100% clear: the Vatican had stayed silent during Holocaust although the Pope knew of the German crimes (here is the historical evidence by none other than the “Smithsonian Magazine”!!). But later the Vatican helped Israel to get what it deserved. Why then not help Greece? Because the Vatican never truly felt any remorse and they never changed their views when it came to Greece and Orthodoxy. (And I am not going to even mention his non-existent support on the Cyprus problem: Pope Francis did not utter one word on the issue during his visit to Cyprus last week!) Of course, our always slavish leadership never demanded what was rightfully ours…
The Pope and the Vatican deserve ABSOLUTELY NO RESPECT FROM ANY BRANCH OF ORTHODOXY OR HELLENISM BOTH IN GREECE AND ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD…
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A Greek Orthodox priest on Saturday shouted, “Pope, you are a heretic!” at Francis in Athens.
A man with a long white beard wearing black robes and a black hat was taken away by police after shouting at the Pope as he was entering the Orthodox Archbishopric.
Video of the episode shared by the Vatican press pool shows the protester, an elderly Greek Orthodox priest, shouting “Pope, you are a heretic!” in Greek three times.
The man is then seen falling to the ground. Uniformed officers and others helped him get up and led him away. His identity wasn’t released.
Francis appeared not to notice the incident, which occurred as he walked into his private meeting with the archbishop.
For centuries the relationship between Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Christians has remained delicate. The two sides split over ecclesiastical differences in an episode known as The Great Schism of 1054.
Francis arrived in Greece on Saturday for a three-day visit. Two decades ago, Pope St. John Paul II became the first pope to visit Greece in over 1,200 years.
According to Vatican News, the meeting between both Christian leaders went smoothly.
They “greeted each other warmly at the Orthodox Archbishopric in Athens,” and Ieronymos offered an introductory address expressing “feelings of brotherhood and honor” in welcoming the pope to the seat of the Church of Athens.
Francis expressed gratitude for the warm welcome, and used the occasion to “ask anew for the forgiveness of God and of our brothers and sisters for the mistakes committed by many Catholics,” he said referring to past actions that have led to divisions among Christians.
Ieronymos told Francis that he agrees with the pontiff’s vision that both sides should join forces to face global challenges such as the migration crisis and climate change.
“Together we must shake the rocks and the walls against the intransigence of the powerful of the Earth,” he said.
The late Archbishop of Orthodox Church of Australia Stylianos, in a press conference at Sidney, was
asked by one Journalist what is the position of the Pope in the Orthodox Church and his reply was:
“his position is behind the last Orthodox Deacon”. He was a great leader and for many years he was the head of the dialog between the Catholic
and Orthodox Church. I happened to meet him in Melbourne many years ago and since then we kept the relationship.
I agree with th old priest. Amen.
So let me say this-
Satan divided the the Bride of Christ into two divisions 1054 yrs after Christ’s death. It’s “the right to be right” which is the basis of all division. Which says that Orthodoxy is the right to be right. And Catholicism which believes it’s the right to be right.
Christ taught unity. Religious organizations today, teach division.
Margaret you are WRONG. Satan did not divide the Church of Christ in two pieces. Satan led the Pope to split from the Church of Christ. Constantinople, Jerusalem, Alexandria and Damascus all stayed united continuing the unbroken tradition of the One Holy and Catholic Apostolic Church… while the Pope split Rome from the body of the Christian Church. The Priest is right in calling the Pope a heretic. Sure the Pope should return to the Christian Church, there is nothing wrong with having a dialogue with the sheep of the Roman Church that split from the original Christian herd. But unity of the Church means that those that strayed have to return not that those that stayed with the original Church should stray away to join the heretics!
Well stated! On point! We are all called to God! No one man has the right to declare one Christian religion as the only way from darkness to Light.
That is pure arrogance.
But Eastern Orthodoxy DOES proclaim itself
The One True Church.
It’s why we’re against Ecumenism.
Ο ΠΑΠΑΣ ΔΙΑΙΡΕΣΕ ΔΥΟ ΦΟΡΕΣ ΤΗΝ ΧΡΙΣΤΙΑΝΟΣΥΝΗ,ΜΙΑ ΦΟΡΑ ΤΟ 1054 ΚΑΙ ΑΛΛΗ ΦΟΡΑ ΤΟ 16 ΑΙΩΝΑ ΜΕ ΤΟΝ ΛΟΥΘΗΡΟ,Ο 83 ΚΑΝΩΝ ΤΩΝ ΑΓΙΩΝ ΑΠΟΣΤΟΛΩΝ ΚΑΘΑΙΡΕΙ ΟΠΟΙΟΝ ΕΠΙΣΚΟΠΟ ΠΟΥ ΓΙΝΕΤΑΙ ΚΟΣΜΙΚΟΣ ΑΡΧΩΝΤΑΣ Ο ΙΕΡΟΝΥΜΟΣ ΕΠΡΕΠΕ ΝΑ ΚΑΝΕΙ ΟΜΟΛΟΓΙΑ ΠΙΣΤΕΩΣ,ΑΛΛΑ ΔΥΣΤΥΧΩΣ ΚΑΙ Η ΕΛΛΑΔΙΚΗ ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ ΠΑΙΡΝΕΙ ΜΕΡΟΣ Σ ΑΥΤΗΝ ΤΗΝ ΜΕΓΑΛΗ ΑΠΟΣΤΑΣΙΑ,ΑΥΤΟΣ Ο ΙΕΡΕΑΣ ΟΜΟΛΟΓΗΤΗΣ ΜΑΣ ΕΣΩΣΕ ΟΛΟΥΣ ΕΥΧΟΜΑΙ ΝΑ ΒΡΕΙ ΟΥΡΑΝΙΟ ΣΤΕΦΑΝΟ ΚΑΙ ΚΑΛΟΝ ΠΑΡΑΔΕΙΣΟ,
MOINE JEAN you are wrong. The Pope only split once from Christianity in 1054 AC (actually the split was initiated in 972 AC and made official in 1054 AC). Luther split from the already heretical Pope showing he had a good instinct that the Pope was rotten… but Luther and the Protestants strayed even further from the Christian Church. Technically speaking there is NO Christianity in the west. Sure there are people who think they love Christ and his teachings… but so do Muslims and Buddhists! Loving Christ’s teachings doesn’t make someone Christian! Joining the Church founded by Christ and his Apostles (the Church that is redundantly called Orthodox) is what makes someone Christian.
Are you God?
This was a bush league and “gyftiko” move and it made worldwide news. Do you think the non-Greek world thinks us as a world class religion, worthy of public discourse and public opinion? Hell no! They think we’re unwashed goat herders.
And this type of priest and his like are in the news monthly for thefts, embezzlements, and a variety of scams and sexual predilections. Then, they want to be righteous!
Repeat: we look like uneducated VLACHI, while the Pope looks like a leader.
The issues don’t matter, the perceptions and image are what count until you get to the Big Leagues.
Our image is that we still serve coffee and tea to the Turks and yell at the Pope. Village idiots.
Stupid stupid stupid. That’s why we are down to 89,000 church goers nation-wide.
If the Pope was in the US and went to the southern border making the same statements that he made in Greece – basically calling us to welcome all the poor migrants indiscriminately – you would definitely be up in arms against him and you would be right: because he is who he is, a globalist… this type of “leadership” is unwelcome either in Greece or in America or anywhere else…
Dear American, you think and write like an ignorant servile Peasant. The Priest is hailed as a hero by many on social media because he did call it like it is and stood up against the globalist elites and those that serve them including both Politicians and Church leaders. It’s acts like that that raise the respect both of the Greek people and the Christian Clergy during the 200th anniversary celebration of the Unprecedented achievement of gaining independence from within the most feared and almighty Ottoman Empire! So hail to the Priest and all those that do their part to call out the heretic Fake Christians such as the Pope. Only when we get all our Clergy to be like this Priest that we will gain the respect of every free thinking person on the planet… You are right that many of our politicians and leaders behave like servants not only to the Turks but worse of all to the globalist elites but as long as we refuse and resist like this Priest alone dared to do there is hope and dignity. So stop thinking like a pathetic servile gypsy rise up to the height of the heritage of your ancestors, cherish the most important element of Hellenism and Christianity and the most precious gift to humane civilization which is the Greek language and your righteous position at the top of human civilization will be restored. If you act and think like a self-conscious serf… you will never gain any world respect and appreciation. Act like that Priest and you will be respected both by your friends and your enemies!
At least the priest had the guts to make a stand – unlike the idiot Covid Cult follower sheep who cannot critically think. Let us not forget Orthodox Christianity is not the one way – the only way. Remember the thief on the Cross.
Christ did not ask if the thief was Orthodox, Roman Catholic, or Jew, etc.
You are making up hypothetical scenarios to defend your statement. The Pope didn’t go to our southern border. The Greek Church acts like Gyfti and are not welcomed in any public debate or taken seriously by anyone. And yes, they are not globalists because they are kleptocrats.
To The Voice of Nothing: Your rhetoric and arguments convince me that when you go into a Greek restaurant, they always seat you near the bathroom. When all the Archbishops of Athens and Patriarchs of Jerusalem and Abbots of Athos stole, grifted, and scammed money, real estate, boys, and sold church offices, I didn’t hear the outrage of that priest or any priest.
They are outraged at Il Papa because he commands a universal church when they do not. Hellenism and Orthodoxy command NOTHING —-politically, demographically, theologically, militarily, economically, intellectually, or morally. They are a big ZERO.
Take 2 aspirin (and dream of the Ottomans you are obsessed with) and call me in the morning.
Dear American, you have a lot to learn so,DO your homework and stop posing as “αυθεντία” because you are not!
What homework is that, Scotty? Reading National Herald?
https://www.ekathimerini.com/society/diaspora/1171486/elpidophoros-says-orthodox-church-preserved-unity-of-greek-diaspora-in-trump-years/
Thanks for posting the link to the article you reference above American. Such bull crap these publications love to dream up and print based upon their own interpretation of the narrative and lies which keep getting repeated ad nauseam! The National Herald is a disgrace of a publication as well as The Greek News and many others.
Trump had nothing to do with creating division of anything.
SATAN DOES. SO TOO DOES THE POPE, ELPIOPI and the HUNGRY TURKISH THIEVES SITTING ON THRONES AS HOMAGE ONLY TO THEMSELVES. They are the antichrist.
Trump is anointed and stands with Israel.
SATAN’S band of army consists of: Pelosi, Biden, Obama, Clintons, Batholomew, Elpidophoros, Hollywood, media propagandists, etc,.
This Greek Priest, whomever he is had the courage to stand up and speak calling out the POPE. However, there is so much more to be done that no one has either the courage or the energy to continue fighting.
Furthermore, there is nothing more arrogant than the belief that the Greek Church or Eastern Orthodox is the “one true church”. Give me a break. We all need repentance, forgiveness and salvation. The Greeks are NO EXCEPTION TO THIS.
Each human being has been given free will to choose getting out of the darkness by asking God for His help – not the Greek church or any other church.
There is only one comment for this priest… AXIOS!
ΚΑΤΑΠΤΥΣΤΗ η συμπεριφορά της Ελληνικής αστυνομίας! Κατάφεραν να ρίξουν κάτω τον Σεβάσμιο υπερήλικα ιερέα! Ξεκάθαρα, η κατάντια δεν έχει πάτο. Συλλυπητήρια στους αρσενικούς-θηλυκούς…και τώρα ‘in between’ μπράβους του video που έφεραν την στολή δήθεν αστυνομικών. Πάνω από όλους όμως, στούς επικεφαλής της…χορωδίας. Υπήρχε σωστός τρόπος να χειριστούν την κατάσταση-αστεροφόροι και μακρομαλούσες αλλά αυτό θα συνέβαινε μόνο εαν υπήρχε εκπαίδευση, επαγγελματισμός και σεβασμός σε αυτό που υποτίθεται υπηρετούν.
Once again— Mr. Stamatakis, polychronos– na eistai pantotai AXIOS!
Just got on the Breitbart Blog– in a statistical analysis, this exact article has to date -received close to 6,000 comments on Breitbart’s blogosphere! This ex-bouncer globy has more enemies out there than we could have fathomed! Thank you for posting this—- the World hears you!!!
Ευχαριστω και πάλι…
Χρόνια Πολλά για την Ονομαστική Εορτή σας, και Συγχαριτήρια για την σωστή, θαρραλέα και ουσιαστική δημοσιογραφική ενημέρωση καθημερινά.
AXIOS! To old priest calling out Emperor Pope has no clothes on.
correct, he does not care about romero either, its all fake
he is connected to freemasons and orange lodge, he disrespects irish history. most welsh same they caused rotherham, they hate all white immigrants, jews mostly same-jews blks and freemasons all heretics
This elderly priest is in my prayers!
Χρόνια πολλά για την ονομαστική σου εορτή αγαπητέ μας οικοδεσπότη. Ο Άγιος Νικόλαος να σε προστατεύει αλλά και να σε εμπνέει ώστε να αστράφτεις χαστούκια στους αιρετικούς, όπως και εκείνος έκανε εναντίον του Αρείου!
Ευχαριστώ για τις ευχές – εσείς είστε η δύναμή μου…
Unfortunately, we know nothing about this priest. To proclaim him as a heroic figure is premature and foolish.
JK,
My sources (who actually know him) tell me this priest has a serious level of theological education, and was fairly well known in local Athenian theological circles back in the day. The Greek media is quick to dismiss him as old and likely senile or demented, but I trust my sources…
It is interesting that you are not commenting on the fact that this priest was maltreated for making a true statement in a land that has seen centuries of mistreatment by the Papal conquistadors. There are still some people alive today who are from the Dodecanese (Rhodes), who remember that they were forbidden to speak Greek or perform their Cross in an Orthodox manner in schools, until those islands finally were liberated officially in 1944- not from the Turks – but from the Roman Catholic Italians…
Bottom-line: Only a Pope who believes the same dogma that Pope Leo III believed in is acceptable to interact with from an Orthodox perspective. Currently, they don’t even pass the simple test of exhibiting Apostolic succession from the mere fact that they don’t agree with their own predecessors (i.e. Pope Leo III)…not that some of our own “fine specimens” are exhibiting agreement with our own Church Fathers either, but that doesn’t mean we the laity should accept what is transpiring…
That’s exactly why this retired priest is a “hero”, because he’s leading by example.
Markos, please post the name of the priest so I can check with my sources in Greece.
jk— let’s find out before we become both the judge and jury…
Bravo, Papouli! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What gusto….now imagine if all our priests came out of hiding to defend our one, true faith? I might still be employed! Asta….
Axios! 😇❤️
Mr crying in the wilderness, the most important gift to humanity is not the Greek language or Hellenism it is Jesus Christ. Like all human beings, Greeks need to be saved by Jesus. I wonder if you have made Hellenism an idol which for you replaces the one true God. Remember that scripture identifies the Jews as God’s chosen people, not the Greeks. Finally, our Lord and Savior was a Jew not a Greek.
AMEN jk. Enough said.
@JK: Jesus Christ is God incarnate! He is not a gift to Humanity! God is the gift to Humanity? L I am serious. Get a grip. On the other hand without the Greek Language there wouldn’t be Christianity and those that tried to become Christians by translation veered away from Christianity and split from it… There is no better example about what happens to those lost in translation is the Pope. You think the illiterate pilgrims will have a better path?I don’t think so. You can be NEITHER a Christian NOR a Greek by translation. Enough said.
Mr. Voice, I guess you don’t think the Russians and all other ethnic groups that have embraced Orthodoxy have strayed. Language is a vehicle to communicate the Gospel and nothing more. Besides our Lord spoke Aramaic not Greek. Thus the Gospels are translations from Aramaic.
If you read DE PROFUNDIS by OscarWilde who was reading theGospel in its original Greek ,it has four pages of sayings by Jesus in Greek ,because most people in Judea spoke Greek in that time, so to preach to the people Jesus spoke Greek!
He said ΤΕΤΕΛΕΣΤΑΙ on the Cross!
The Greeks were so much esteemed then that Jesus said “ Ηλθεν η ωρα ινα δοξασθει ο υιος του ανθρωπου « οταν μια ομαδα Ελληνων ζητησαν να τον δουν και να μιλησουν μαζι του!
Christianity is the Hellenized Judaism preached by Apostle Paul who was fluent in Greek and
Greek Philosophy impressed by the altar ΤΩΙ ΑΓΝΩΣΤΩΙ ΘΕΩΙ that he found in Athens Agora .
Western Europe had the Gospel during the Middle Ages, but it was the translations of Ancient Greek Books that brought the GREEK RENAISSANCEin Europe when Gutenberg produced millions of cheap copies after 1440
ΦΟΝΗ ΒΟΟΝΤΟΣ ΕΝ ΤΗ ΕΡΗΜΩ ,ΑΓΑΠΗΤΕ ΕΙΠΑ ΧΡΙΣΤΙΑΝΟΣΥΝΗ ΚΑΙ ΟΧΙ ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΔΙΕΥΚΡΙΝΙΖΩ Ο ΠΑΠΑΣ ΔΙΑΙΡΕΣΕ ΚΑΙ ΤΗΝ ΠΑΠΙΚΗ ΔΥΤΙΚΗ ΕΚΚΛΗΣΙΑ,ΤΩΡΑ ΔΕΝ ΜΠΟΡΟΥΜΕ ΝΑ ΕΞΕΤΑΣΟΥΜΕ ΣΕ ΠΟΙΟ ΒΑΘΜΟ ΤΗΣ ΧΡΙΣΤΙΑΝΟΣΥΝΗΣ ΑΝΗΚΟΥΝ ΟΙ ΚΑΘΟΛΙΚΟΙ ΚΑΙ ΟΙ ΠΡΟΤΕΣΤΑΝΤΕΣ ΔΙΑ ΝΑ ΜΗ ΤΟΥΣ ΑΔΙΚΗΣΟΥΜΕ,ΠΑΝΤΩΣ Η ΑΝΤΙΔΡΑΣΗ ΤΟΥ ΛΟΥΘΗΡΟΥ ΚΑΤΑ ΤΟΝ ΠΑΠΑ ΗΤΑΝ ΛΙΑΝ ΟΡΘΟΔΟΞΟΣ ΤΩΡΑ ΤΙ ΕΓΙΝΕ Ο ΠΡΟΤΕΣΤΑΝΤΙΣΜΟΣ ΜΕΤΑ ΑΥΤΟ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΑΛΛΗ ΙΣΤΟΡΙΑ ΚΑΙ ΜΑΛΛΙΣΤΑ ΔΕΝ ΕΧΕΙ ΚΑΜΙΑ ΣΧΕΣΗ ΜΕ ΤΗΝ ΟΡΘΟΔΟΞΙΑ,
MOINE JEAN… Δεν υπάρχει Χριστιανοσύνη χωρίς την Εκκλησία… Μήπως είσαι προτεστάντισα; Αυτοί λένε κάτι τέτοια…
The cry “Pope you are a heretic!” comes out of centuries of the very adversarial relationship of the Vatican with Greek lands: Greece, Asia Minor, Constantinople, Cyprus… When people like the Greeks come to pronounce proverbial expressions like “Better The Sultan’s Turban Than The Papal tiara”, still used today, then we do not need to go further to understand the negative feelings a Pope’s visit creates…
If these feelings had only to do with the disastrous Crusades that devastated Greek lands I would suggest that we finally have to let history be history. But during WWII the Vatican reminded us once again of its ugly face with its silence on the Holocaust and its not-so-secret support of the Nazis.
Pope Francis is not holding back at all his political views. The last time he came to the US in 2015 he did not go to the Southern border, he went straight into Congress and laid it all out: Support for (Catholic globalist) John Kerry, loose immigration policy, abolishing the death penalty, re-distribution of wealth, climate change, etc (link here)… And in many other occasions later he gave us his “wisdom”: “Those who build walls will become prisoners of the walls they put up”…
Having said all that we also need to be fair: the Pope’s visits are always well orchestrated and he always visits schools, hospitals, poor neighborhoods, etc… Unlike our Patriarch who in seven or eight visits in the US or other countries he never visits hospitals or nursing homes… Shameful!
Still the Greeks’ problem with the Vatican it was always political regardless of the religious/dogmatic schism…
Yes, yes, brother, and Cain killed Abel. Let’s go find Cain’s descendants and have a rumpled Greek priests scream “murderer” at them in Greek !
Wow, will history take notice or what? We will zoom to the top.
Why hasn’t the Greek priesthood screamed at the Protestant heretics like Phillip and Charles of UK when they visited Athos? You know why? Because the Brits brought a check with them that’s why. Charles will be the head of the Church if England some day. By God, he’s a heretic! But wait, isn’t he Nouno to so many Greek shipowners children? Lordy, this is so much fun.
HERETICS, let’s scream, oh righteous priests!
The Greek church and the Greek ethnos needs to straighten out their many, many, many disasters (heresy, sin, institutionalized theft, communism and otherwise) before they can get on their high horse about the Pope. Greeks spend the most time on porno websites of any EU country.
Oh, I know…the Turks, Kissinger, the CIA, Bush, the Jews, the German Jewish bankers, the Nazis, the Communists (still there by the way) , the Americanakia, Jackie Onassis, the Pope….we have to hate them all because WE ARE GREEKS.
Greece is listed as the most (#1 or #2) corrupt country in the EU and has been for years until maybe some Eastern countries were admitted. The Church is just as corrupt. Stop all the cry baby Hellenistic Ortho-crap and clean your own stables first.
If we were smart, we’d have a Catholic-Orthodox-Protestant Christian Alliance to counter Islam, China, and the Tyrants of LGTB social and historical revisionism. But WE’RE NOT SMART. WE ARE GYFTI. Keep yelling at the Pope, Gyfti.
Though we know about the atrocities peperpetraded by the Catholics against the Orthodox, we must also acknowledge the massacre of the Latins carried out by the Byzantium. The Greeks are not innocent victims.
hmm…. American points out painful truths about all the eurotrash that cheapens the “mission” of normal, hardworking conservatives–that said, both my jewish and catholic friends feel the same way–they feel that their religions have been “cheapened” by these leftist’ globies….
So, okay, then what they need to do is straighten out their own messes. Do you see the Jews yelling at the Pope ? Do the Catholics yell at Bart and other Patriarchs? No, only the GYFTI yell and scream and wallow in their own excrement , all the while ignoring their many many fatal flaws.
American– I was narrowing my point to the over 6,000 Breitbart replies to this same article– Americans all– not so much applauding the unknown Greek priest- but 100 percent were writing of their enormous disapproval of pope f. Really- even for Breitbart– a huge number of blog responders really truly detest what he stands for. Are they all gyfti?
Good grief, Larissa, you have no way of knowing if 6000 replies in a public comment section are even real much less American. All popes draw fire all around- from abortionists, from Islam, from Russians, from Chinese, and from socialist Democrats, you name it.
Greeks love to yell and scream about their nation being screwed and how true their religion is, blah blah blah. They talk a lot of smack but they don’t walk the walk. They deliver nothing current to the public square except past glories and complaints.
And I love this comment section here where all the Super Greeks resort to CAP LETTER GREEK MESSAGES because it’s secret code to only the real Patriotes (who usually go to church and drop quarters in the basket with a closed fist).
Losers all and, yes, GYFTI.
Let me take exception regarding the “past glory” and the successes of us Greeks… We Hellenes always succeeded as “Diaspora” all over the globe over the centuries… We define the term “diaspora” – no matter how this term annoys some among us… And you “American” are such a prime example (with Ioannis Kapodistrias, foreign minister of the Czar of Russia and first Governor of Greece, being always at the top of the list). You are more Greek than me – and I was born and educated there… Because you kept your Greek language skills, your faith, and your love of Greece and everything Greek while you are born and raised in America…
I’m not understanding this whole “gyfti” (γύφτοι, gypsies) description; I’m assuming that it is meant to be derogatory. The current heavyweight boxing champion is the “Gypsy King”. He doesn’t seem to be such a bad fellow. If publicly shouting “heretic!” at someone who espouses anti-Orthodox teachings is being “gyfti”, what would that make St. Nicholas of Myra, who slapped Arius right across the chops, the “gyfti” Emperor?
You can call me “gyfti” all day long. Forza Gyfti!!!
So Art, gyfti in the Demotic Greek is basically to say “classless”, as in not classy. Low rent. And I maintain that the Greek Church and clergy, as a body, here and in Greece, conducts its affairs poorly and without purpose or dignity or honesty or in the image of the Apostle they are supposed to represent. The St Nicholas legend was a different time and venue and in the middle of a councilor debate, not street level yelling. If this is what you want for clergy, well, you’ve gotten what you’ve paid for— empty pews everywhere. And since all of you defenders of the priest love the Early Fathers so much, why didn’t the priest flee into prayer instead of yelling like an unruly street drunk?
The Saint Nicholas legend represents the ideal form we all need to have in mind; it is the standard of faith we need to have in mind. And it is a proper response to a globalist Pope who subjects most of his actions to the priorities of those who want to create a global human “mousse”. As for the Greek church, yes, they have been subject to all kinds of political interests. Unfortunately, the true faith is being preached by a small minority of priests has been under attack for a long time everywhere.
American, I feel that your heart is in the right place but I’m not with you on the church attendance numbers. There are several reasons for the low attendance in Greece and in the US GOA churches. I have no doubt that disingenuous hierarchs and clergy are a major cause for the low attendance. A few saintly people have stated that we get the hierarchs and clergy that we deserve. I agree. A big portion of the former laity have chosen comfortable living over ascetic struggling, “science” and technology over faith in God (one does not need to make that choice, one can have both). In the past, the poor behavior that you point out had me disgusted to the point of not stepping foot in church for years. Now I just see all this as our fallen nature without making excuses. I have found a few humble parish priests whose parishes I attend. I have found several humble and discerning hierarchs whose readings and podcasts I follow. This has helped me immensely.
One must also be cautious with the attendance numbers issue. It is much better to be in a poor little church with mostly empty pews and a godly priest than in a packed fancy sports arena being led by a deluded huckster. I truly hope that you find a place where you can find peace and salvation. God bless you.
Όσοι ορθόδοξοι διαμαρτύρεστε για τον σημερινό Πάπα στη σημερινή εποχή με αιτιάσεις προηγούμενων αιώνων επειδή οι πνευματικοί μας Ορθόδοξοι ηγέτες από τον Οικουμενικό Πατριάρχη έως κι εμένα τον τελευταίο Ορθόδοξο Χριστιανό που συμφωνώ μαζί τους, αναλογιστείτε αφενός την επιταγή της ενότητας της Εκκλησίας κι αφετέρου διαβάστε ή ακούστε τον λόγο του ίδιου του Πάπα, ένα λόγο αγάπης αλλά συγνώμης για όσα έκανε η Παπική εκκλησία στο παρελθόν και πράξτε αυτό που ο Κύριος μας Ιησούς Χριστός θα ήθελε από εσάς κι ότι ότι η μικρότητα του καθενός μας επιβάλει με μνησικακία και πάθος.
Προσωπικά στο λόγο αλλά και στις πράξεις του Πάπα δεν βρήκα ούτε ένα ψεγάδι και είμαι ευγνώμων που ζω σε μία εποχή αγάπης και σύγκλισης των Εκκλησιών και προσεύχομαι για την οριστική επανένωση τους με αγάπη και κατανόηση.
Για όποιον αντίθετα σκέφτεται και ενεργεί, προσεύχομαι για τη συγχώρεση του γιατί προφανώς έχει βιώματα δύσκολα από τη ζωή του ή διαφορετικές κατηχήσεις, ώστε δεν μπορεί να αναγνώσει τον Λόγο του Θεού με τον ίδιο με εμένα τρόπο, κι όπως, εάν θυμάμαι καλά είπε κι ο Πάπας στα παιδιά ενός σχολείου στο Μαρούσι, ο Θεός μας αγαπάει όλους, ακόμη και τους μεγαλύτερους εγκληματίες και μας περιμένει να μετανοήσουμε.
Σωστά το λέτε ότι ο Πάπας τουλάχιστον λέγει το λόγο του Χριστού και επισκέπτεται σχολεία και νοσοκομεία όπου και αν πάει ενώ οι δικοί μας ιεράρχες δεν κάνοπυν αυτά τα απλά και αυτονόητα για το λειτούργημά τους. Πλήν όμως οι μνήμες είναι ακόμα νωπές από τη φιλοναζιστική και φιλοφασιστική στάση του Βατικανού στον Β’ Παγκόσμιο Πόλεμο όπου η Ελλάδα είχε αναλογικάτα περισσότερα από οποιαδήποτε άλλη χώρα πλην Ρωσίας. Αλλά και η τωρινή επιμονή του Πάπα να παίζει ρόλο πολιορκητικού κριού στο προσφυγικό και να ηγείται των γκλομπαλιστών είναι εξίσου καταδικαστέα καθώς θα ισοπεδώσει όλους τους λαούς και όλους τους πολιτισμούς στο επίπεδο ενός ανθρώπινου πολτού από τον οποίο μόνο οι λίγοι και πλούσιοι θα ωφεληθούν. Ας μην έχουμε αυταπάτες: Βατικανό ίσον μηχανορραφίες παγκοσμίου επιπέδου…
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