EDITOR’S NOTE (Nick Stamatakis). In a recent post on social media, AB Elpidophoros justified once again the nickname “Elpidoktonos” (hope-killer) yours truly gave him on the day of his election in 2019. he said in this statement: “I come from Istanbul. In Constantinople, the priests don’t have long beards, they don’t wear cassocks, and they don’t even wear crosses. We wear suits and ties like modern people. We wear robes only when we go to serve. In other cases, we don’t wear a rasa… This is the kind of clergy I want back in our Church…” It was a spectacular misrepresentation of the reality in Turkey, where the “Neo-Ottomans” and the Sultan Erdogan DO NOT ALLOW the priests to wear their proper attire as prescribed by their religious tradition… But Elpidoktonos tries to present the prohibition as “modernity.”… Unbelievable!…
Sotiris Tzoumas of exapsalmos.gr gave him the proper response (Below in English translation followed by the Greek original).
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Elpidophoros, Come To Your Senses!!
By Sotiris Tzoumas
“I come from Istanbul. In Constantinople, the priests don’t have long beards, they don’t wear cassocks, and they don’t even wear crosses. We wear suits and ties like modern people. We wear robes only when we go to serve. In other cases, we don’t wear a cassock… This is the kind of clergy I want to return to our Church”, said Archbishop of America Elpidophoros!
Of course, Mr. Elpidophoros forgets that Constantinople is located in Turkey, which forbids non-visiting clergy (earlier also to them) to walk around dressed in the honored cassock and to carry the insignia of an orthodox clergy.
Second mistake made by Mr. Elpidophoros in his above statement, which was made on a social media site – is the phrase “I want it to return to our Church”! And in fact, the mistake is twofold.
What does “I want” mean? Who is it that wants it, and where does it want it? Who has the right to “want” in our Church? Is the Church his fiefdom and Mr. Elpidophoros “wants” it? And who told him that what everyone wants is done in the Church?
Also, can he tell us what it means to “return to our Church”? When did the Church institute the suit and tie and then change it to a cassock??? How much audacity and foolishness! It reminds us of Aesop’s stubby fox, who wanted to pass off the cut-off tail as normal for all foxes!
One more… pearl of Mr. Elpidophoros is the phrase, “We wear suits and ties like modern people”! The honest cassock of the Orthodox cleric Mr. Elpidoforos is not old-fashioned clothing that needs modernization! The priest is not a simple man either. When a man is ordained, he ceases to be George, John, etc., and he becomes Fr. George, Fr. Ioannis, effectively and not formally!
The Fathers of the Church tell us that the human body of the priest becomes sacred like the Holy Table! That is why we have examples where the priest’s body is used in extraordinary cases as the Holy Altar. Read Mr. Elpidophoros the Life of St. Lukianos! The cleric is not a simple person whom you want to “modernize”! That is why when the cleric dies, he is covered with the “air,” the sacred covering that covers the Saints!
And one last thing, because as long as one deals with such people, one only offers them advertising and gives them value.
Saint Maximus the Confessor says: “Deacons must become those who have conquered the passions.” Elders become those who submitted the calculations. Bishops, those who have reached theosis”!!! Is Mr. Elpidophoros somewhere near such concepts, or is the distance that separates him an abyss?
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Ελπιδοφόρε Σύνελθε!!
Του Σωτήρη Τζούμα
«Κατάγομαι από την Κωνσταντινούπολη. Στην Κωνσταντινούπολη οι παπάδες δεν έχουν μακριά γένια, δεν φοράνε ράσα, δεν φορούν καν σταυρούς. Φοράμε κοστούμια και γραβάτες σαν σύγχρονοι άνθρωποι. Φοράμε άμφια μόνο όταν πάμε να υπηρετήσουμε. Σε άλλες περιπτώσεις, δεν φοράμε ράσα… Αυτό είναι το είδος των κληρικών που θέλω να επιστρέψει στην Εκκλησία μας»,τάδε έφη Αρχιεπίσκοπος Αμερικής Ελπιδοφόρος!
Λησμονεί βεβαίως ο κ. Ελπιδοφόρος ότι η Κωνσταντινούπολη βρίσκεται στην Τουρκία, η οποία απαγορεύει στους μη επισκέπτες (παλαιότερα και σε αυτούς) κληρικούς να κυκλοφορούν ενδεδυμένοι το τιμημένο ράσο και να φέρουν διακριτικά ορθοδόξου κληρικού.
Δεύτερο λάθος που κάνει ο κ. Ελπιδοφόρος στην ανωτέρω δήλωσή του, η οποία έγινε σε μέσο κοινωνικής δικτύωσης- είναι η φράση «θέλω να επιστρέψει στην Εκκλησία μας»! Και μάλιστα το λάθος είναι διττό.
Τι θα πει «θέλω»; Ποιός είναι αυτός που θέλει και πού το θέλει; Ποιός έχει το δικαίωμα να «θέλει» στην Εκκλησία μας; Το τσιφλίκι του είναι η Εκκλησία και «θέλει» ο κ. Ελπιδοφόρος; Και ποιός του είπε ότι στην Εκκλησία γίνεται αυτό που θέλει ο καθείς;
Επίσης, μήπως μπορεί να μας πει τι σημαίνει «να επιστρέψει στην Εκκλησία μας»; Πότε η Εκκλησία είχε θεσπίσει το κοστούμι και την γραβάτα και μετά το άλλαξε σε ράσο;;; Πόσο θράσος και ανοησία πια! Μας θυμίζει την κολοβή αλεπού του Αισώπου που ήθελε να περάσει την κομμένη ουρά ως φυσιολογικό σε όλες τις αλεπούδες!
Ένα ακόμη… μαργαριτάρι του κ. Ελπιδοφόρου είναι η φράση «Φοράμε κοστούμια και γραβάτες σαν σύγχρονοι άνθρωποι»! Το τίμιο ράσο του Ορθοδόξου κληρικού κ. Ελπιδοφόρε δεν είναι παλιομοδίτικη ενδυμασία που θέλει εκσυγχρονισμό! Ούτε ο ιερέας είναι απλός άνθρωπος. Όταν ένας άνδρας χειροτονείται, παύει πια να είναι ο Γιώργος, ο Γιάννης κ.ο.κ. και γίνεται ο π. Γεώργιος, ο π. Ιωάννης, ουσιαστικά και όχι τυπικά!
Οι Πατέρες της Εκκλησίας μας λένε ότι το ανθρώπινο σώμα του ιερέως γίνεται ιερό σαν αγία Τράπεζα! Γι’ αυτό και έχουμε παραδείγματα, όπου χρησιμοποιείται το σώμα του ιερέως σε έκτακτες περιπτώσεις για Αγ. Τράπεζα. Διαβάστε κ. Ελπιδοφόρε τον βίο του Αγ. Λουκιανού! Δεν είναι ένας απλός άνθρωπος ο κληρικός, που θες εσύ να τον «εκσυγχρονίσεις»! Γι’ αυτό και όταν πεθάνει ο κληρικός καλύπτεται με τον «αέρα», το ιερό κάλυμμα που καλύπτονται τα Άγια!
Και κάτι τελευταίο, γιατί όσο ασχολείται κανείς με τέτοιους ανθρώπους μόνο διαφήμιση τους προσφέρει και αξία τους δίνει.
Λέγει ο Άγιος Μάξιμος ο Ομολογητής: «Διάκονοι πρέπει να γίνονται όσοι νίκησαν τα πάθη. Πρεσβύτεροι όσοι υπέταξαν τους λογισμούς. Επίσκοποι όσοι έφτασαν στην θέωση»!!! Είναι κάπου εκεί κοντά ο κ. Ελπιδοφόρος ή μήπως η απόσταση που τον χωρίζει είναι άβυσσος;




And I want bishops like St. Nektarios…
I searched the web for info on Turkish priests wearing suits but could not find any articles. Very strange.
Does anyone listen to this man? He acts and speaks on his own, not as an Orthodox Christian clergyman or layperson. He is an embarrassment to Orthodoxy. Lord have mercy.
Embarrassment?
Elpi boy is a monumental monstrosity — clearly a tool of Diabolo.
And what gets me is STILL no demonstration happens to depose him!
There probably wont be
And I want Saint Nicholas to come and slap some sense into this man!!
Nice touch with the mini polka dot tie….😱 po po..
St. Athanasius the Father of Orthodoxy! “Know that we must serve not the times, but God”
Holy Tradition is equally important as Holy Scripture in the Orthodox church !!
What a clown!
The collective faithful are asleep & distracted & that’s why a snake like Elpidoktonos gets away
The crowd that brought us BLM — Abortion at Birth- LGBTQXYZ … and all other abominations is on its way out — young families and old dodgers like me and my hubby won’t ever support the crowd that hangs around him- or let’s reverse it– the crowd he hangs around with. They are outnumbered. Scary thing- this small minority is louder and doesn’t care if supporters are lost. That should scare us all- who never had it so good under previous “regimes.”
Συνονόματε κ. Τζούμα δε σε γνωρίζω. Με τον Ελπιδοκτόνο τα έβαλες ; Θα φας το κεφάλι σου ! Πίσω του στέκει ο Πατριάρχης. Αυτός τον ετοποθέτησε και αυτός τον ελέγχει. Ότι λέει και πράττει ο Αμερικής είναι εκ των προτέρων εγκεκριμένο από το Φανάρι. Τόσα χρόνια στην Εκκλησία τώρα το ανεκάλυψες ;
Όταν ο Αμερικής βάπτισε στην Ελλάδα παιδιά ομοφυλοφιλικού ζεύγους που ήσουν ;
Ασφαλώς θα θυμάσαι ότι η προΐσταμένη του Αρχή τον έκανε ντα !
ANAXIOS! That’s all there’s to say.
Why is Helleniscope and Posters making such a big deal about Elpidophoros wearing suits , when bible Toting Evangelical clergy and preachers like Osteen, Hagee, Pat Robinson, Graham, Jimmy Swaggert , Tammy Baker, and her husband … are always dressed in suits or skirts when they read on National T.V. to the Evangelical supporters of Israel and their Christiana followers ..to tell the whole truth , and nothing but the Truth , so help them God! I mean …I think it is offensive and discriminatory to the Greek Orthodox Clergy to offend them when as we all know now …they are moving to the Evangelical Global Order ..which included LGBTQ and Gender rights in the Christian churches ! Don’t blame Turkey for this ..
Why??
Bc Orthodox Priest/Bishops tradition doesn’t wear suits – they are “set apart” from secular Godless world.
To be “set apart” is holiness.
Period.
Eastern Orthodoxy tradition revolves around ascetic monastic ethos –
while tv evangelicals revolve around money
SIR GATANAS … POINT WELL TAKEN , HOWEVER , ACCORDING TO STATE DEPARTMENT EVANGELCIAL ZIONIST GEOFFREY PYATT AND JEWISH ZIONIST ZELENSKY … ORTHODOX CLERGY AND MONKS OF THE UKRAINIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH OF UKRAINE ARE ‘ “RUSSIAN SABATURERS UNDERMINING THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UKRAINE DRESSED UP LIKE PRIEST”” AND BY YOUR OWN WORDS.. WHICH i AGREE … THE RULING EVANGELCIAL RELIGIOUS ORDER OF THE U.S . GOVERNMENT AND CONGRESS HAVE “SET THEMSELVES APART, AS BEING LITERALLY PART OF THE SECULAR GODLESS WORLD ! I MEAN COMMITTING GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER IS NOT EXACTLY ..SERVANTS OF GOD!
Right, and the Patriarchs and Metropolitans and Archbishops and Karloutsos and posse have no interest in money and spending it in an unaccountable way.
Dr. Franklin Graham didn’t start any wars, but Bart and Kyril did and urged Orthodox to kill each other in the name of God.
Elpi’s clothing remarks are propaganda to make Turkey appear modern and tolerant when they are not. Who knows what was exchanged in return for that propaganda.
Yes, BUT:
It has been established beyond ANY doubt that it was the West that rejected an early peace plan after the talks in Istanbul. Israeli PM Naftali Bennett said so. among many others.. Here is one of the countless links
https://www.fairobserver.com/world-news/the-wests-disastrous-decision-to-reject-peace-in-ukraine/
Also let’s not forget that it was the West that said explicitly that the purpose of the Minsk agreements was to buy time to built up Ukraine militarily…. Famously Angela Merkel and many others admitted that with public statements during the last few months.
Hey Lower Manhattan Cynic .. did you state the following ” Dr. Franklin Graham didn’t start any wars, but Bart and Kyril did and urged Orthodox to kill each other in the name of God.”… Really! The last I heard …Dr. Franklin Graham, one of the Evangelical leadaers of the Controlling Evangelcial Congrewss has never objected or condemned the Criminal Endless Wars since 1948 which included the Racist killing of millions of men, women and children Aians in Vietnam, Christians in Yugoslavia, Serbia , Muslim and Christians of Iraq, libya , Afganistan, Syria, lebanon, Palestine, Yemen , Somalia , and I did not hear Dr. Franklin Graham object to hie Evangelical flock of murderers in imposing Econimic Sanctions of over 1/3rd the population of the world which are designed to starve the peopleo to death by preventing them from earning revenue to feed their children and provide essential needs to live, in order to extort and coerce their cooperation to surrender their sovereignty and elected officials to the U.S led Nato crime familiy Additionally , to my knowledge the only people who urged Evangelicals to kill Muslims and Orthodox Christians in Iraq..representing 1 million citizens in the name of God ..was Evangelical born again Christian George Bush Jr. of America , and Tony Blair of England… “To protect Israel” If you call ..Krill blessing Russian Solders during his Orthodox Masses in Moscow before going to defend Russia against the Anti Christ team of America and Nato evidence that they ordered the killing of Orthodox Ukrainians , I have a scoop for yiou …who probably is not an Othodox Christians …because you would know “All Greek and Eastern Orthodox Churches including Russia Orthodox Chruches of America ..bless teh Armed forces of America , and also the corrupt Politicians of America to keep them safe and make good decision” In orther word lower Manhattan Cynic … it is a part of the liturgy every Sunday …and required by the clergy to proclime this blessing on the Armed forces of the country , like America they operate in! Bart may be a crook and stooge but he has no power to order anybody killed …only the State deartment , C.I.A and Military!
This “bishop” is a betrayer of the Church!